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Gunsmith was an easy fakeclaim since I could just Role Cop people. I guess it also made me look more like an ally and not the real mafia.

Tric's ability was extremely good and I wanted to kill him at night, but I wanted to wait until N2 since he wouldn't have useful info until then. Unfortunately, Tric was lying about their role and actually cleared Max and Vector on N1 alone. That was the best case scenario for him to only find two town and not any of the scum, but it was still extremely powerful and difficult to deal with. It was smart of him to lie about how his role worked, as otherwise I would have tried to kill him N1. After that there was no point in killing him anymore.

Alos, why did the Mafia get gimped so hard?!

I was a Role Cop that could only kill every other night. I had multi-tasking and a strongkill but it didn't matter at all. I was basically fucked on my own.

... ToonyMan Let the chips fall where they may. Also Shoot Vector Tonight. The main issue here is the whole Copsensor thing. If you are mafia vector, this trick won't ever work again.

The game is over now Tric. You can't shoot Vector tonight even if you wanted to, that's how being endgame'd works.

Vector Vector Vector.

In Web's role flip it says the mafia factional kill is separate from the captain's orders:

(If a Mafia player is tied to your Authority, usage of their factional ability is exempt from this requirement. Furthermore, the players affected by Authority can still choose to take no action.)

If you have a delayed killed - which I suspect - then you simply targeted Web with it on N1 and that's why they perished on N2.

Then N3 I decided not to kill, and gave Tric a gun. And on N4 I both made NJW bulletproof and shot him.

No, you targeted NJW on N3 with your kill while also giving Tric a gun. You didn't give NJW a bulletproof obviously since that would protect him from dying.

From Day 2:

If Vector/MS, then either MS did the kill and got blocked, or Vector did the kill and targeted me (They wouldn't do that, would they??? )

Web might have knew he was targeted by Vector?

*ahem*

- I've been cleared by two cops, yourself included.

We can't trust our results if you're a godfather or have some factional ability benefit as solo scum.

Nice theory, except I gave Tric a gun two nights ago?

- My actions on nights 2 and 3 were publicly recorded. For N4 you can't actually record that I gave NJW a bulletproof vest, but I did. Regardless, I could not have killed N2 or N3.

Multi-tasking!

- ToonyMan was communicating with Webadict in-thread. See my large case against him.

Bait by Web to falsely implicate me!

If you want to throw the game and let Toony convince you, that's fine. I don't really feel motivated to fight with someone who ignores their own inspection result + record that I couldn't have possibly killed on nights that kills happened + the fact that if I'm scum, I literally made a townie into a vig.

If Tric votes wrong today then they'll get endgamed. I don't think they can act as a vig anymore with your gun. So it's not even a 50/50 anymore like if we hit town yesterday, which was guaranteed to happen between me and NJW. Another reason you would want a tie yesterday as now today is definitive.

I had no reason to kill Web! I had no reason to kill NJW! In fact, these deaths are horrible for me if I was mafia. The odd nature of these deaths and process of elimination has led me to conclude that you, Vector, must be a beefed up solo scum to make up for the fact that the game could end immediately on Day 1 if you were voted for elimination.

I've been wrong constantly this game. I ignored Vector after getting an innocent result, but that was a mistake.

Vector

I think I understand what is going on. Vector has a delayed kill. That's why nobody died N1. That's why Web didn't die at night until N2. That's why NJW didn't die until N4. This is exactly why Vector wanted to vote me yesterday over NJW because NJW was already destined to die. That's also why Vector didn't give their 50% bulletproof to Tric. They're claiming they gave their 50% bulletproof to NJW, but that's likely false since NJW died anyway. It's Vector, holy shit.

Question, if I'm not a gunsmith then what am I?

Or do you believe I'm a gunsmith but also mafia? A gunsmith mafia that wouldn't be able to find their ally since Web would have come back innocent. A gunsmith mafia that didn't kill anyone on N1 since Max didn't commute, although maybe they did since Roden jailkeeped them. A gunsmith mafia that somehow killed their ally on N2 because we're trusting NJW's word. A gunsmith mafia that did not even attempt to kill Vector on N3 which would have put the deciding vote in Tric's hands. A gunsmith mafia that would still lose 50% of the time even if NJW was hammered since Tric would shoot them. That is me? That is my role in this?

Tric, Vector is voting me because they don't believe me. The same reason you voted NJW over me. Vector will never stop not believing me. So whatever. You play the hand you're dealt and sometimes there's nothing you can do.