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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R2, Day 2): Searching In The Light
« on: October 10, 2021, 03:58:57 pm »
It could be that the mafia team is Tric/Met and he just did that to try to save Met, but this is unlikely considering the fact he was voting Met just prior.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R2, Day 2): Searching In The Light
« on: October 10, 2021, 03:58:18 pm »
What the fuck Tric.

It is very unlikely Tric is mafia unless they're insane because 5 minutes before EoD he gave me a gun and said "shoot me or NJW" as those were the only two players I could have voted to lynch at that point. I didn't vote either because I couldn't see mafia!Tric letting me kill them like that and as for NJW...I didn't want to jump my vote onto them without hearing from Met who was radio silent and had an awful vote on NJW.

The fact there was no kill last night makes me think either:

1. The mafia targeted me last night.
or
2. Jack stopped the kill by protecting the victim or blocking the killer.


I believe the mafia possibilities come down to NJW/Met, NJW/Vector, or Met/Vector.

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Tric it's going to be a no lynch currently unless I vote you.

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NJW if you vote Jack I'm poisoning you.

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I was thinking it could possibly be inside information. Roden also seems to suspect a mafia ally this time around as more likely.

There isn't really enough time for Met to say anything and have people be able to react to it. If I wanted to be a huge troll I could unvote to cause a tie right now.

PPE:
Votes Euchreack

Thought you were going to be gone. You're not. So I'm going back to my idea of a Toony/Jack team. Met's not going to answer, it seems.
Tric you tied the votes! I am not voting this.

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Met you could tie to save yourself by voting Tric if nobody else does anything. Are you able to post for the end of day?

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Another thing is that town!Met and mafia!Vector were bashing heads and crossvoting last round while there's been no hint of that this game. If we take this reasoning further we could argue that they both have a new agenda now to suss NJW and Tric while supporting each other. They don't feel as threatened by NJW since he wants Roden and Jack mainly and Tric is Tric.

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1. Met comes in to play finally with this post:
I don't like jack's play. It's similar to last game but instead of never taking a real stance this game jack is taking many weak stances. NJW seems like a player I will have difficulty reading. Ultimately I'll have to do some kind of agenda meta analysis. The way Tric tunnels on roden is notable

who claimed psychologist and then said they were actually a redirector? that's policy yeetable tbh
also biologist is not really related to psychology. like maybe one could argue that psychology is a form of biology but if someone wants to get that pedantic then i will remind them that literally everything is just applied set theory
Met susses Jack and Tric while thinking NJW is hard to read. Makes no mention of myself, Roden, or Vector.

2. Met follows up with this:
so you're just ignoring my soulread on you?
jack
A "soulread" vote on Jack for not addressing them properly, which is true so I don't fault them for this voting Jack based on their feelings.

3. Vector comes in now to say:
I still think it's Tric and I'm sticking with it. P. sure Metruption is town, think Toony is town, ... Euchrejack is probably town, he's all over the place as town. I guess if I was going to think of a team it would be NJW/Tric. NJW was playing good town last game and just took a massive drop in skill level, so that's a tell of some kind.
Vector susses Tric and NJW. Thinks Met is town just based on their couple posts prior that don't really have much. Also believes in myself and Jack. Makes no mention of Roden either funny enough. To be fair mafia!Jack in the last round also forgot to mention Roden.

4. Next Vector post:
PS: I'm good with the "Toony shoots and NL if they're town" plan. I'm also OK with NJW, even. That would give us a lot of information about EJ and Tric, and I genuinely think NJW could be scum.

I know that I've been one of the options. If you decide I'm going to die today, you need to let me claim first. I'll be on tonight but I may be absent for a while because, you know, I have grad school.
Vector is cool with me killing NJW of course.

5. The next day Met comes in again with this:
NJW
i would expect town!njw to respond to tric pointing out the logical leaps made by now, especially considering njw has posted since then and responded to something else entirely. my guess is that the badlogic was a genuine scumslip and njw just ignoring it, and hoping people forget about it

the right thing to do when you scumslip is explain how it isn't a scumslip and then win the game off of it with charisma by getting all of your detractors yeeted
Met jumps to NJW now towards day end, doesn't talk about anything else.

6. Vector comes in again just to be confused about Jack (a natural response):
The Toonyman/Vector scum team needed to find out if there was a roleblocker or doctor, and who had it, before they could hammer for the win.

Which is why I said that I didn't want a fullclaim, which I already ate shit for. Please keep up.
They don't really add much here.

7. Met again:
I think mechanically there is going to be a lot of death in this setup. Maybe even as little as one scum. My ability should allow me to be confirmable as town by a tracker during n2.
Fair enough.

Oh fuck, I actually did misread.
But the salt in your post still makes me sr you.
NJW counters their argument against Met who goes "you're right, but I'll be leaving my vote on you anyway because soulread".

Is Met just voting NJW here as an easy target? That's my impression.

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Well the day ends in 3 hours and I'm leaving my vote on Met. If I'm at risk of being lynched today or there's a tie or something that would cause a NL I'll poison Met or NJW. Otherwise if I survive tonight I'll poison someone tomorrow.

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I think mechanically there is going to be a lot of death in this setup. Maybe even as little as one scum. My ability should allow me to be confirmable as town by a tracker during n2.
What?

Do you have reads on everyone besides"NJW is mad"? I suspect you as mafia if it's exactly with Vector. Vector town read you with very little to go on while everyone else is pretty null on you which is odd. Your response to my question could very well direct us to hitting scum on D1. Since if you and Vector are legit I really do think it's Tric and NJW.

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I don't think NJW actually suspects me as long as I prove my kill.

I have no intentions of voting or poisoning you or Jack today so I can't really see that happening.

Lynching someone only is better for me obviously since I can hold onto my day poison, one of the downsides of my ability is I can't get info on someone's flip before poisoning my target the same day. So I would be blind picking the second target unfortunately without the actual flip of the first known yet. So it's more like a double lynch for that day. And of course with less players I'm more likely to get a mafia hit or break lylo if it comes to that.

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I will leave my vote on Metruption over NJW. I particularly want their feelings on every player not just Vector, but also especially Vector.

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Current feelings:

Jack - town
Roden - town

Tric - mixed, although slightly town unless they're gutsy, don't really feel like poisoning anymore
Vector - mixed, hasn't shared but could see town!Vector acting like they have today

Met - hasn't shared, has barely posted
NJW - hasn't shared, really wants Roden and Jack...my top two townreads, I would be less suspicious of this if their day game was like Round 1's but I haven't seen that

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You could say I am an expert in being toxic.

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@TricMagic:
Do mafia have a nightkill?
Guess we'll find out, huh?

@NJW:
Between Tric and Met who do you think is a more likely hit?
... Met hadn't actually had time to post. So why do you assume him to be Mafia? I mean, you assume me too, but I haven't had any interactions with him. No one has. Well, other than jack, but that's quite recent. He's still in the push stage of voting.
My top suspects are you, NJW, and Met. There's either two mafia or mafia+ally so you can't all three be mafia. I think the rest of the players are likely town. This leaves Met (which I will need to read their posts now that they're here) and you two. This is why I would like to hear your opinion of the other two.

I think Tric/NJW is my top pick, but I could see Met/Tric, Met/NJW, or possibly Met/Vector.

I am not targeting Roden or Jack as not only have they openly stated their abilities willingly, but I think they're town.

You have also shared your ability - which I am grateful for - however it was under Vector's pressure which makes it less convincing to me than Round 1, does this make sense?

So dead either way. Yeah, no ToonyMan, I don't buy it. This is the first I've heard of it occurring and day end. And that's important information. I don't mind dying if I take you out.

Seriously, you left us with the impression we'd have discussion time, but it occurring at day end changes the narrative entirely. That makes it closer to a Mafia breaker than a town-aligned breaker.
The fact you don't mind dying here is actually pretty towny. Mafia should be 90% sure I'm not lying about my ability which means there's no way they'd risk getting taken down with me unless they have major guts. I like it.



@Met:
NJW
i would expect town!njw to respond to tric pointing out the logical leaps made by now, especially considering njw has posted since then and responded to something else entirely. my guess is that the badlogic was a genuine scumslip and njw just ignoring it, and hoping people forget about it

the right thing to do when you scumslip is explain how it isn't a scumslip and then win the game off of it with charisma by getting all of your detractors yeeted
How do you feel about Vector?

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