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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R1, Round Over): One Final Discovery
« on: October 05, 2021, 04:57:57 pm »
I took notes during N1, not that it matters:


As a side note, Roden was only one-shot like I expected and Tric wasn't as powerful as he claimed since he couldn't see exactly who targeted him. A ton of town bluffing in this which is pretty funny.



Scum Chat https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/BL62cT7fGqKsu
Those first eight messages :D
Quote from: Jack in Scumchat
But thankfully, Tric generally needs another player to translate for him, so without Toony, Tric will probably flail ineffectively.
Yeah, about that...

Quote from: Jack in Scumchat
I smell a doctor somewhere. Probably Toony or Roden.
I am not very good at hiding Doctor status am I?

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R1, Round Over): One Final Discovery
« on: October 05, 2021, 01:04:22 pm »
@NJW:
Were you able to delay every night? That seemed suspicious to me considering the rest of town had nerfed powers.

In fact, the rest of town wasn't able to make use of any of their powers.

Met wasn't able to cop anyone.
I wasn't able to protect anyone.
Roden nobody attempted to kill.
Tric was never targeted.

That goes to show you can still find success without town PRs.

Because let's be real, me as an Even Night Doctor is never going to protect anyone as that involves:

1. Not being the N1 or N2 nightkill target
2. Not being lynched D1 or D2
3. Correctly guessing the N2 kill target

So if I was alive for N2 I was just going to protect Tric regardless of whether I thought they would be the kill target or not, if they were targeted for the kill that would have been even better for town, if they weren't then we can still confirm each other didn't perform the kill since Tric will claim I targeted him first.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R1, Round Over): One Final Discovery
« on: October 05, 2021, 12:03:47 pm »
Yeah, mafia being busy kinda screwed them over. Major issue is the Role Cop ruse got used twiceover in a game with cop and doctor already outed.

Any comments on my logic(chess) at the end? Always fun to get a chance to do those.
It was good. I also wish Investigations 3 was real.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R1, Round Over): One Final Discovery
« on: October 05, 2021, 11:32:40 am »
lol I'm a god

Good shit town, although I do feel bad that the mafia were busy this round.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R1, Day 1): Seven In The Lounge (7/7)
« on: September 28, 2021, 10:40:59 pm »
I'm not going to be awake for day end so that's what I have to say on that. I'll be leaving my vote on Jack.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R1, Day 1): Seven In The Lounge (7/7)
« on: September 28, 2021, 08:44:31 pm »
Jack is yeetable
How yeetable?
I would yeet jack if I couldn't yeet vector
I'm not voting Vector, vote Jack with me.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R1, Day 1): Seven In The Lounge (7/7)
« on: September 28, 2021, 08:42:44 pm »
Goodnight.
So that's the answer? Lynch one of the claimed unkillables and hope the other is town? Or, if Met flips town are you going to push for Roden tomorrow? How does that help us?

Mechanically, wouldn't Roden be a better pick over the two since we could at least confirm info off of Met? I know you want Roden first, but I don't agree with having Roden or Met as our vote candidates on D1 in the first place.

I'll retract these statements if Met does flip mafia or mafia-ally, and this does make Roden look very good, but I am not optimistic.

For Met:
I believe they're telling the truth about being able to self-hide, which is another reason I don't think they're mafia. They could be mafia-ally though.

For Roden:
I believe he is telling the truth about being Bulletproof, the claim looked very natural. I think their alignment is more unclear than Met's which is why I put them below Met currently, but I would only deliberate over this situation much harder if it was lylo.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R1, Day 1): Seven In The Lounge (7/7)
« on: September 28, 2021, 07:33:33 pm »
NJW and I have claimed active abilities that can target. I don't believe Vector or Jack have claimed anything.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R1, Day 1): Seven In The Lounge (7/7)
« on: September 28, 2021, 06:58:48 pm »
For me, this leaves the following players as possible vote targets today:

1. Jack
2. Vector
3. NJW
4. Tric

I don't want to vote NJW or Tric today. This is the line I am following. It's Vector or Jack for me.



@TricMagic:
By the same vein, voting Jack is something I'd be fine with. Or, you know, just skipping the vote today. Been in favor of that, though wanted the info pressure and talk would bring.
Which players would you be okay with voting today? Do you think NJW is town?

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R1, Day 1): Seven In The Lounge (7/7)
« on: September 28, 2021, 06:55:20 pm »
These claims are frustrating because mafia would absolutely love to lynch the Commuter or Bulletproof during the day, these are power roles we want alive for lylo.

If we lynch one and they flip town then what? Lynch the other the next day? It's not worth it at this point in time and it's very unlikely both are mafia, we can all agree on this yes?

I don't think we should consider Met or Roden until it's an assumed lylo. By assumed lylo that means at most two mafia which puts lylo on D2 at the earliest if we lynch someone today.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R1, Day 1): Seven In The Lounge (7/7)
« on: September 28, 2021, 06:38:52 pm »
Okay so.

NJW is town as fuck or playing godly mafia. I don't think I've ever seen them play as mafia, but they are not a player I want to vote today.

I still believe Tric and Roden are town, their day start behavior doesn't make sense to me if they're mafia. I think NJW is wrong about Roden, but I also think Roden is wrong about Met.

Met does not seem like mafia to me, they are flailing too hard. They might be doing certain things on purpose as a mafia-ally, like trying to associate with Roden to "dirty" him, but I just think it's unlikely. Met is probably town.

Vector is kind of suspect but I don't have any solid reasoning.

Jack is the most suspicious to me currently. Jack is content with Vector's demise, is pushing Met, and their calm in-control vibe is freaks me out. They must be aware of this and they're townreading me based on this suspicion I have, how do I read this?

Currently, I think we'll hit one mafia inside Vector/Jack and I would want Jack first.

Reads List order:
Tric
NJW
Met
Roden
Vector
Jack



Vector (2): EuchreJack, Metruption
Metruption (2): Vector, TricMagic

Right now Vector and Met are crossvoting and I think they're both serious about it, which leads me to conclude:

1. Town crossvoting
Possible

2. Town and mafia crossvoting
Possible

3. Town and mafia-ally crossvoting
Possible

4. Mafia and mafia-ally crossvoting
Unlikely (but hilarious)

5. Mafia crossvoting
Unlikely

I'm not really happy with either of these lynches. I would want to take Vector over Met, but Jack is on Vector which I don't like.



I want to believe Met, but a Commuter + Bulletproof combo seems kind of wild. Like how is scum supposed to win a 1v4 if their scum buddy/traitor gets out first? Also kinda feels like he's trying to buddy me.
Roden is town because as town I only mindmeld with town.
No kidding.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R1, Day 1): Seven In The Lounge (7/7)
« on: September 28, 2021, 02:15:17 pm »
Is this reverse psychology??

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R1, Day 1): Seven In The Lounge (7/7)
« on: September 28, 2021, 01:33:45 pm »
I'm not a huge fan of these jack posts, it feels like they lack any sort of real stance.
Ding ding ding! That's how I feel.

Who do you think mafia will gun for if they aren't capable of targeting you tonight?

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R1, Day 1): Seven In The Lounge (7/7)
« on: September 28, 2021, 01:32:03 pm »
@Jack:
You shouldn't mind me leaving a vote on you then if leaving yours on Vector is fine.

What do you think of Met? Town or mafia?

Please do, it actually makes me feel better about you.  For whatever its worth, I'm leaving my FOS on you until I get a chance to review your posts in-depth anyways. But suspecting me is part of your Town meta these days.

I'm really not sure on Met.  They're doing a good job hunting Vector, but I think they're hunting Vector just because Vector voted them.  They sort of dropped their case on Tric without a good reason other than to attack a player for voting them.  There is also the concern that they claim to be an experienced mafia player, yet their play doesn't seem to be experienced.  I really can't say at this time. I'm not sure why they're getting so much flak for being a Commuter though.  It sounds like something to claim early that can lead to confirmed Town, so I think the claim is a good one to make if true and if town.

Nothing to add based on Met's newest posts.  I've made FAR worse.
Your busy-ness is expected because I believe you said you had things to do at the end of the month, however your indecision on Met is suspicious. Where are the wild accusations of town!Jack? I'm going to read into your sedated state as more than it seems.

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