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I believe with 7 players this setup is two mafia with a conditional kill power or this setup is one normal mafia with a mafia ally. Having a mafia ally who will not be accidentally killed by their mafia partner makes perfect sense to me.

Yes, I am suspicious of you Met being an ally, but I have greater grievances with others.

@NJW:
I've seen slot used to refer to players. The same way elim = lynch.

I'm starting to think Met is a mafia-ally if scum with their defensive reactions and claimed ability to avoid being targeting. I don't really get a mafia energy from them, so I think they're town or an m-ally. If we are in an m-ally setup then the two mafia wouldn't know who the other is.

I can post reads when I get home.

In the meantime:

1. I agree with NJW's assessment of Tric. He put into words what I was unable to.
2. There might be one mafia between Roden/Met, however I strongly don't believe both are scum.
3. Vector feels natural.
4. Jack feels unnatural.

Quote from: EuchreJack on September 27, 2021, 09:55:14 pm

Hm, but we don't know the setup.  I think the mass claim strategy only works when we have at least some hint to the setup.

Not voting Roden because Town Roden seems to like the mass claim.  Hell, I'm not even suspicious, I just think its bad strategy.

This seems specious. Overexplaining. What does Town Roden seems to like the mass claim mean

Jack is referring to the "Newbie" game where town!Roden wanted the one-shot BP to claim if they existed since there's a meta way to play in that open setup. It's a bit different here but I understand their view.

Quote from: ToonyMan on September 27, 2021, 08:59:46 am

I'll vote Vector, is Tric worth killing N1?

While cruel, voting Vector for not posting makes sense, as the failure to post is by far the most suspicious thing.

FOS on ToonyMan until I get an explanation as to why Vector and not me.

Question for Tric: Does FOS even make sense in such a small and fast setup?

What do you mean? I wasn't voting Vector for not posting, it was still the morning and I wanted their thoughts on Tric. I don't like your vote here as it's backed by false reasoning, do you agree?

@Metruption:

I expect this to be a game with lots of low power roles.

This sounds reasonable and matches what I have.

I expect poison to be the delayed night kill and I assume it works like they target a player at night and that player dies at the end of the next day, whether or not they KNOW they are poisoned I don't know. There might even be a town role that can tell if people are poisoned, but it wouldn't be me.

Hmm, poison is possible but I don't think mafia actually have it.

I'm a commuter and you can expect me to be dabbing out each and every night so that I don't get stabbed, shot, poisoned, etc.

So you can just self-hide every night to save yourself? I find this more suspicious than Tric's claim.

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@Roden:

I'm Bulletproof, so the only way scum can get rid of me is either through poison or end gaming me. Met sounds like he's basically untouchable, and Tric's role will essentially reveal who poisons him if he has a delayed death. So far, this narrows down who can get shot or poisoned, giving scum less choices and town roles a better shot at investigating and protecting successfully.

This also implies scum could have a 1-shot Ninja or Strongman though, since we have multiple roles that make it difficult for scum to do anything.

The amount of passive roles is a bit staggering to me right now. I was willing to throw down my role this morning, but I'm hesitant now as my ability is not passive and one that I would rather scum didn't know since every player so far has reactionary powers.

The fact you're just Bulletproof and not One-Shot Bulletproof does implies that mafia may have a way to circumvent your armor, I agree.

ToonyMan: do you have any particular order in mind if we do massclaim? I.e. who goes after Roden?

I can go second unless someone really wants to go before me. I don't think we need a particular order besides those that volunteer first.

An immediate massclaim could be beneficial for town. It is unlikely with this amount of players for there to be duplicate roles (I also feel FoU would find that boring for a setup), so if scum fakeclaim an existing role that could make them suspicious. This could make mafia less willing to claim early rather than later.

We also don't know what we're up against except that it's at least one mafia. Personally, I would expect two mafia with nerfed kill power or one mafia plus one mafia ally.

I find it odd Metruption hasn't responded. I assume they want to play, but thought they were already confirmed by posting in this thread. In any case, if this first round starts with six players they can always join a future round by subbing in for another player or possibly joining as a seventh.