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Mafia / Re: MATRIX6- Magic Tric Newbie Mafia 6/9 [Day 2: Cyber Sea Blues and a side of 7]
« on: July 02, 2021, 12:56:18 pm »
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Mafia / Re: MATRIX6- Magic Tric Newbie Mafia 6/9 [Day 2: Cyber Sea Blues and a side of 7]
« on: July 02, 2021, 12:49:37 pm »FOU: Ugh, I guess Web probably was mafia trying to buddy me. FOU just didn't get the memo.What do you mean here? FoU is also buddying you. The big change for me is that Web was saying I'm "def scum" while FoU thinks I'm "def town".
Why are you voting a null read and not Magma or FoU, who you suspect more?
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Mafia / Re: MATRIX6- Magic Tric Newbie Mafia 6/9 [Day 2: Cyber Sea Blues and a side of 7]
« on: July 02, 2021, 12:16:31 pm »
Why are you acting like this on a D2 mylo? It's so jovial with a mix of fake anger thrown in for show.
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Mafia / Re: MATRIX6- Magic Tric Newbie Mafia 6/9 [Day 2: Cyber Sea Blues and a side of 7]
« on: July 02, 2021, 12:11:20 pm »
There's one scum on me and another one being voted. Scum can't quickhammer unless I'm at L-1.
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Mafia / Re: MATRIX6- Magic Tric Newbie Mafia 6/9 [Day 2: Cyber Sea Blues and a side of 7]
« on: July 02, 2021, 12:08:02 pm »EVERYONE is possible scum. There are no absolute town. It's just a factor of degrees.But why are your town reads suddenly no good? I built up trust with Roden (and to a lesser extent Magma) that I find hard to let go. I want to believe my town reads are correct and I'm constantly reaffirming myself whether I believe them or not. The more or stronger town reads I have on someone the harder it is for me to let that go beyond indisputable proof.
I've a veteran of the Paranoia forums. Stay Alert! Trust No One! Keep Your Laser Handy!
I'm used to waiting for inevitable betrayal from all directions.
You're dropping your Toony and FoU town reads into the mud with every other player you also scum read like it's nothing. You voted one of your town reads without batting an eye because somebody told you to. You then proceeded to vote your other town read. How do you expect to win with this mentality?
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Mafia / Re: MATRIX6- Magic Tric Newbie Mafia 6/9 [Day 2: Cyber Sea Blues and a side of 7]
« on: July 02, 2021, 11:53:09 am »
Toony/FoU are your top two town reads Jack.
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Mafia / Re: MATRIX6- Magic Tric Newbie Mafia 6/9 [Day 2: Cyber Sea Blues and a side of 7]
« on: July 02, 2021, 11:43:46 am »
Because FoU is a better player than you and a more likely hit. I don't expect this lynch to happen, it literally can't be hammered unless the rest of the town vote FoU (since you and FoU are most likely mafia), but I'm leaving it here for now until I can do their ISO today.
For what it's worth, I saw Magma Mater was on within past 15 minutes prior to my reading Toonyman's message. Not sure if that means anything.The bottom portion of this is the most interesting to me because it feels extremely out of character and unnatural.
Scared Townie or excited Mafia? Thankfully, Toonyman was also checking frequently, and was able to act in 4 minutes.
...Toonyman, if you me and FOU were Town, we're only alive because the scum team was unavailable to hammer. They could have done so within that 4 minutes.
It could be that Magma Mater's partner wasn't available at the time.
I will give Toonyman town points for waiting 2 and a half hours for that gambit to pay off. That is dedication. But needs a dose of wisdom to go along with it.Why? Why are you being so thoughtless and carefree? Why are you the only player that feels glee on a D2 mylo after we managed to accidentally kill the BP townie on D1? How can you be so playful?
BECAUSE I'M NEW, YOU DUMBFUCK.
Toonyman
FUCK YOU, I'M DONE
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Mafia / Re: MATRIX6- Magic Tric Newbie Mafia 6/9 [Day 2: Cyber Sea Blues and a side of 7]
« on: July 02, 2021, 11:24:28 am »
FallacyofUrist
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Mafia / Re: MATRIX6- Magic Tric Newbie Mafia 6/9 [Day 2: Cyber Sea Blues and a side of 7]
« on: July 02, 2021, 11:03:41 am »
@Jack:
Your response sounds so fake to me.
You voted like someone who knows a quickhammer isn't going to happen. You voted even though I mentioned that a quickhammer could happen at L-2. You voted even though Magma/Pref/Roden are the three people you find most suspicious.
Why? Why are you being so thoughtless and carefree? Why are you the only player that feels glee on a D2 mylo after we managed to accidentally kill the BP townie on D1? How can you be so playful?
Your response sounds so fake to me.
You voted like someone who knows a quickhammer isn't going to happen. You voted even though I mentioned that a quickhammer could happen at L-2. You voted even though Magma/Pref/Roden are the three people you find most suspicious.
Why? Why are you being so thoughtless and carefree? Why are you the only player that feels glee on a D2 mylo after we managed to accidentally kill the BP townie on D1? How can you be so playful?
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Mafia / Re: MATRIX6- Magic Tric Newbie Mafia 6/9 [Day 2: Cyber Sea Blues and a side of 7]
« on: July 02, 2021, 10:31:40 am »
@Jack:
Your top scum team is Magma/Pref and you willingly put FoU at L-2 with neither of these players already voting FoU.
Your top scum team is Magma/Pref and you willingly put FoU at L-2 with neither of these players already voting FoU.
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Mafia / Re: MATRIX6- Magic Tric Newbie Mafia 6/9 [Day 2: Cyber Sea Blues and a side of 7]
« on: July 02, 2021, 10:28:42 am »
Unvote
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Mafia / Re: MATRIX6- Magic Tric Newbie Mafia 6/9 [Day 2: Cyber Sea Blues and a side of 7]
« on: July 02, 2021, 07:55:42 am »
@Jack:
Hmm hmm, I see I see.
So FoU is suspicious.
Let's look at these reads:
Let me give my sage advice. I don't get scum feelings off Magma or Roden at all. Roden is convincing me that FoU/Pref might be possible if it isn't simply just FoU/Jack.
Want to get a chance to do what you said you would for Hedgerow on D1? I'm going to vote FoU, and if you trust me, you will vote FoU with me. Even if I'm mafia we can't quickhammer FoU at L-2, sound good?
FallacyofUrist
Hmm hmm, I see I see.
So FoU is suspicious.
Let's look at these reads:
Reads List:Alright so...you don't trust anyone but me. You read every other player as scummy and FoU as "null".
Toonyman: For various reasons, I read as almost certainly Town
FallacyofUrist: Probably Town, some doubts
Roden: Good discussion and thoughts, but mostly trusting to Toonyman on this one
Prefuzek: Heart of neutrality, good way to hide as mafia. Alright, I'm going to say it, "Seemed more interested in looking town then hunting scum". TMI
Magma Mater: Had a lot of good strategy advice that earned them Town cred, but mostly poked around and contributed nothing
Let me give my sage advice. I don't get scum feelings off Magma or Roden at all. Roden is convincing me that FoU/Pref might be possible if it isn't simply just FoU/Jack.
Want to get a chance to do what you said you would for Hedgerow on D1? I'm going to vote FoU, and if you trust me, you will vote FoU with me. Even if I'm mafia we can't quickhammer FoU at L-2, sound good?
FallacyofUrist
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Mafia / Re: MATRIX6- Magic Tric Newbie Mafia 6/9 [Day 2: Cyber Sea Blues and a side of 7]
« on: July 02, 2021, 12:19:39 am »
Please don't just turn your brain off and vote Pref if I'm dead tomorrow. FoU and Jack are salivating at a Pref wagon and have done nothing to convince me otherwise.
I'm going to bed.
I'm going to bed.
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Mafia / Re: MATRIX6- Magic Tric Newbie Mafia 6/9 [Day 2: Cyber Sea Blues and a side of 7]
« on: July 02, 2021, 12:15:29 am »Your attack and backing off of Jack looked natural and is another town tell I have for you. I don't believe you could be partners because your "scum theater" was very convincing if you were both mafia. Does that make sense? I think we are looking at this situation completely differently from each other. Why does mafia!Roden bother to attack mafia!Jack in the first place and if true, it looked natural and convincing to me. Your attacks on each other looked very natural which implies town vs town or town vs mafia, not mafia vs mafia.What are you talking about here? If you think my attack and back off looks natural then I should be confirmed town in your eyes. If it looks unnatural then it's scum theater. And scum doesnt back off of an easy mis-elim then vote Hedgerow who would be an easy Day 2 mis-elim. Pairing me with anyone but Jack makes zero sense.Toony, please don't say scummy shit like this now. The only viable way I'm scum is if Jack is my partner, because otherwise I mis-elim him Day 1.This isn't true Roden. Your possible partners are Magma and Pref. You're not mafia with Jack because your attack and then backing off looked natural. It's literally the opposite of what you're saying here.
Roden has three main town tells for me:
1. They openly discussed gaming the Matrix6 system with the BP claiming at the start, I feel mafia would be a bit hesitant to talk about it like that.
(this is also why Pref was town leaning Roden in their first reads list)
2. Their Gnosia note on their town read of me felt incredibly genuine and subtle, I don't think mafia would have thought of it or bothered.
3. They were getting second thoughts about Jack and switched to Hedgerow, looked natural to me and mafia probably wouldn't bother.
I basically gave town read points to both you and Jack after seeing that part of D1 since it looked believable from both sides, independently.
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Mafia / Re: MATRIX6- Magic Tric Newbie Mafia 6/9 [Day 2: Cyber Sea Blues and a side of 7]
« on: July 01, 2021, 11:53:32 pm »
For the record, here are my total town tells for Jack and FoU so far:
Jack:
They were out for Roden's blood while on death's row during D1.
FoU:
Web town read Jack at the start of the game. This is likely accurate if Web is town.
Neither of these have to do with them reading me as a player, unlike Roden and Magma.
Yes, both Jack and FoU read me the player as town usually and seem to trust me, but that's easy to fake and unlike Roden and Magma I don't have any solid reasonings for why they're actually a town player town reading me. I have far better reasoning to trust Roden and Magma currently in that respect. If I just had a single solid town tell for Pref I would be out for their heads. Unfortunately, I didn't find any big town tells while doing Pref's ISO. I really wish I did. Please help me Pref.
Jack:
They were out for Roden's blood while on death's row during D1.
FoU:
Web town read Jack at the start of the game. This is likely accurate if Web is town.
Neither of these have to do with them reading me as a player, unlike Roden and Magma.
Yes, both Jack and FoU read me the player as town usually and seem to trust me, but that's easy to fake and unlike Roden and Magma I don't have any solid reasonings for why they're actually a town player town reading me. I have far better reasoning to trust Roden and Magma currently in that respect. If I just had a single solid town tell for Pref I would be out for their heads. Unfortunately, I didn't find any big town tells while doing Pref's ISO. I really wish I did. Please help me Pref.