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Messages - ToonyMan

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Blue also said that EuchreJack is a wolf and that he's 100x more aggressive than usual.

I don't see anything in Blue's posts that indicate he could have been a power role. I don't think I'm missing anything (there isn't a lot there to go through) so his death implicates one or both of the above.
Yes, I totally killed Blue for calling me out as wolf, even though I was voting them, actively pushing for their lynch, and if they survived I totally could have garnered at least a few votes on them.  You saw through my cunning plan to shoot myself in the foot.
I figured a strikeout would indicate this was 100% sarcasm.

Care to build your case against Prefuzek?  Their heart of neutrality is making it hard to read them, lol.
Also, I mislynched them before, I'm trying to avoid doing that again.
They did make a case, right before, in their big impressive post.

Magma Mater: Had a lot of good strategy advice that earned them Town cred, but mostly poked around and contributed nothing
Huh? Do you really feel Magma has contributed nothing? This is such a disingenuous read.

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Jack you realize how blatantly TMI your attutude looks about Hedgerow right now right?

My mind has been screaming to vote you the entire game. I still only townread you because of your behavior when you were almost dying D1 and Web's read on you. That's it still. If I find any good evidence that Magma OR Pref are clean I want you dead with FoU.

I really hate how you throw acronyms out, expecting us newbies to understand them.  What does TMI even mean?

But on the bright side, I've decided to Townread you.  This is your third emotional response regarding Hedgerow's death.  I don't think a mafia player could properly generate it three times.
I'm posting from bed so I can't type fully sorry.

TMI is Too Much Information. In other words, mafia know who town are so it's easy to "avoid" a mislynch and claim towncred for it. Actual town don't have that luxury.

PPE:
Could you tell me what TMI means?
I'm

Trying to

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You all, except Pref, mislynched Hedgerow after I told you not to do it.  You've played with me before.  You should expect me to be rude to you for that.
Yes, I know it isn't "optimum townie play".  But you were wrong, I was right, you didn't listen to me, and now Hedgerow is dead.
Like holy shit I gave Hedgerow every benefit of the doubt and they did nothing to save themselves. Roden and Magma were there too trying to help. I don't see how we could have possibly done any better given the two wagons between Hedgerow and YOURSELF unless you're actually mafia and I've misread your poor flailing attack on Roden.

Which by the way still makes Roden town if you're mafia.

Also, if mafia fail to hit the other PR tonight it's going to seriously hurt them since it will completely remove a player from the POE. So I'm going to laugh a lot when they miss.

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Jack you realize how blatantly TMI your attutude looks about Hedgerow right now right?

My mind has been screaming to vote you the entire game. I still only townread you because of your behavior when you were almost dying D1 and Web's read on you. That's it still. If I find any good evidence that Magma OR Pref are clean I want you dead with FoU.

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Jack, what is your POE? Pref and Magma?

Why are you throwing shade on Roden and FoU today? Do you town read them or not? We need strong connections and reads.

If Pref vs FoU isn't scum vs scum, then even if there is one scum between them, by PoE due to my town reads the second scum has to be Magma. Does this make sense? Jack Toony and I seem to all be town reading each other, so it literally only leaves Magma, right?
Right now I think Pref is a better choice over Magma between the two.

Magma is the highest town read player by quite a bit so if we want to give us players any credit then that's one reason to pick Pref over Magma first.
Nah, Magma Mater burned all their town cred at end of day 1, plus this town mislynched.  I give most of you players no credit.  I'm thinking Roden primarily because Toonyman has been consistently wrong in reading people the entire game.  ToonyMan, you have a Giant blind spot when it comes to Roden.

I am giving credit to FOU's in that they don't think Pref is more scummy than Roden, even though Pref voted them and Roden didn't.
This is pretty rude to me and the rest of the players.

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You seriously think Roden is mafia Jack?

Look at this post and this post.

Also, your town read on me makes sense from the perspective of a veteran player sorting a new player. And I think it is genuine since the quote of me mentioning Gnosia implies you went through my ISO before making your town read. This isn't a confirmed town move, but I do think town has a reason to actually do that before giving a town read.
This is such a good point and I'll be amazed if mafia!Roden thought of it.

How does everyone feel about Jack atm? Because I'm actually getting defensive townie vibes at this point. FoU mentioned Jack could just be misplaying town, and I'm really starting to see it. I don't think mafia tries to build a case for a next day elim if they believe they're getting voted out on the current day. It would just be a waste of time.
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Toony, if your theory about Web is right then his slot might be town too. Unless you think it's possible Web would've tried to early pocket Jack with a town read.
This is an incredibly townie rationale if you look at the context leading up to it. Roden is genius mafia playing or they're not mafia.

The only Roden partners that even make sense are with Magma or Pref. I'm a complete idiot if it's Roden/FoU and it's simply not Roden/Jack.

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If Pref vs FoU isn't scum vs scum, then even if there is one scum between them, by PoE due to my town reads the second scum has to be Magma. Does this make sense? Jack Toony and I seem to all be town reading each other, so it literally only leaves Magma, right?
Right now I think Pref is a better choice over Magma between the two.

Magma is the highest town read player by quite a bit so if we want to give us players any credit then that's one reason to pick Pref over Magma first.

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I've been thinking about each of the combos and hypothesizing each case in my head before I dive in.

Spoiler: My Team Reads (click to show/hide)

Initial feelings:

If Roden is mafia it's with Pref or Magma. FoU is unlikely and Jack is very very unlikely.

If Jack is mafia it's almost certainly with FoU. Magma is the next likely. Pref and Roden is likely never true.

If FoU is mafia it's almost certainly with Jack. It could be with Roden, but unlikely. It's very unlikely with Pref or Magma.

If Pref is mafia it's with Roden or Magma. It's very unlikely with Jack or FoU.

If Magma is mafia it's with Pref or Roden. Magma is possible, but meh. FoU is very unlikely.

This leaves my most likely pairings as...

Roden/Pref
Roden/Magma
Jack/FoU
Pref/Magma
(and Magma/Jack which I feel meh about)

I don't suspect Roden/Jack/FoU, but I will keep this in mind while I'm rereading.

Going to bed soon so don't expect anything from me until tomorrow. Nobody vote anything.

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This makes things interesting since I think you're mafia Magma.

Who's mafia from your POV now? Pref/Roden?

Everyone should give their POEs today.

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I wasn't expecting the modkill either, but at least it clears the slot and improves the pacing of the game instead of waiting for subs.

Mafia can't keep Rolan alive as a lylo breaker now either, so this is arguably a town-sided move and it helps my POE out.

For example, if we mislynched today we almost certainly would have had Rolan around for D3 for lylo and it would have been awful.

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@The Town PR:
You're probably the Tracker, don't claim today unless you have a result that proves someone is mafia.

Otherwise, if you claim today the mafia will just eliminate you tonight and we will have nothing for lylo tomorrow.

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Quick post first.

@Toonyman: No problem, we certainly have the time.  Especially since No Lynch has at least marginal strategic use.  Advice on voting in this situation would be appreciated.  I'm probably going to be leery of voting too soon.
We don't vote anyone today. If we're wrong we lose now thanks to the modkill.

We vote for no lynch (or sleep I've seen it called) and force the mafia to clear another player by killing them. But first we need to have some discussion to determine the scum.

If the mafia team isn't Magma/Pref then I can only conclude my re-evaluation was wrong and that the team really is just Jack/FoU. I highly doubt Roden is mafia unless they are playing me hard.

It's straight up these two combinations in my opinion:

Magma/Pref - high likelihood
Jack/FoU - low likelihood

FoU can't be mafia with Magma or Pref because both were trying to kill FoU at the end of Day 1.
I don't think Jack is mafia anymore and this read is stronger than my town read of FoU.
Roden I strongly town read.

I will be exploring Pref/Magma interactions to see if there's anything decisive.

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So now it is officially MYLO.
I don't think Tric intended this, but they may have mod-slipped the setup is a town Tracker with two Goons because it's not technically MYLO if the town has a Jailkeeper and stops/protects the mafiakill tonight. I'm okay with pointing this out since the mafia know the setup now anyway.

@Toonyman: Why do you see Pref & Magma as a team, as opposed to either player being on a team with someone else, like FOU for example.
I'm about to watch stuff with some people but I can respond more when I'm back in an hour or two.

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Very well then. Though I did note the whole bastardized bit given this isn't a situation I am normally prepared for. Not enough experience.

Rolan7 has ben modkilled. Rolan7 was a Vanilla Townie

So now it is officially MYLO.
lol

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@Toonyman [Veteran Player]: Any advice for what we should be doing Day 2? I've actually never gotten this far...
Boycott until Tric changes the rules.

Why do you think Bluarian was killed?

Do you also think the two mafia are inside Pref/Magma/Rolan?

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