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What do you think of all this setup discussion on D1?

It's fine. It shouldn't be the main focus though.

Scum team:
BluarianKnight - Blue is always scum
hedgerow - Awaiting a response that might convince me they're not scum

Are you serious? Bluarian is scum because they always roll scum? hedgerow is scum for voting you without good enough reasons even though it's the start of the game?

How come votes have a decimal point? Is that necessary?

So I understand why Toony might be especially annoyed, but there were still things the robot team could have done better aside from the uncoordinated first kill. You were playing against two people with deep differences over what counts as decent play, there was definitely some room for maneuver.

When I read everyone's beginning posts it became clear that we would need NJW to shoot Pref and not the other way around.

Webadict's attitude did cost them their life, but I don't blame them for not knowing whether NJW would shoot them over it. They could have possibly responded better but none of us know the correct response.

Looking at the flow of kills logically:

1. NJW proclaims they're going to shoot Web unless something happens, this is strongly tied to their previous posts with Web which call him out for being a robot.

2. Tric shoots me out of nowhere.
I can no longer contribute to the scum team while Tric looks scummy.

3. NJW follows through and shoots Web regardless, since Tric's shot makes Web even more likely a robot.
Web can no longer contribute to the scum team, very likely was dead regardless of Tric's shot.

4. Pref proclaims they're going to shoot Tric, they have every reason in the world to shoot Tric just like every player left alive.
Before Web died they thought our only hope now was to push Tric as an insane human, a "dumb fucking plan" as he put it.

5. Pref shoots Tric.

6. Pref thinks NQT is scummier than NJW.

7. NJW proclaims they're going to shoot Pref if they don't shoot.

8. Pref shoots NQT.
Game over.

By point 6 NQT's best chance would have been to pressure NJW to shoot before Pref, but I think NQT was busy this week so their activity was less and they probably weren't thinking of their best winning move. NQT had fake reasons for why Pref was a robot and NJW was the other human, which is maybe why they didn't pursue this line of attack.

No votes yet...I'm going to vote Prefuzek for some pressure. Who are you going to keep an eye on in this game?

We were likely going to shoot Tric on D1 depending on how it went.

Every player in the game wanted to shoot Tric after they shot me on D1. It was incredibly destructive, if Tric was human they would have thrown the game as the other human would have killed them on D2. Brilliant move as either alignment.

Diagram:

You can try whatever you like Tric. I do recommend not voting anyone though.

@TricMagic:
Your "shoot everyone" plan stops working when it's final 3. Fake paranoia can only get you so far as a robot. Robots don't want to be in a F3 in the first place as they have no options left.

TricMagic shot me for no reason. I'm kind of pissed. They gave me no warning or heads up in scum chat.

Did Tric really think they'd get towncred by killing one of their own allies immediately? They should think about how reckless that action would have been as a human and how it doesn't make sense from a human POV. I would shoot them every time as a human if I saw that.

Pref is the MVP here for not only killing two robots, but deducing the other human at the start of the game.

NJW2000 played well too by killing Webadict with good reasoning.