PFP
I am unfortunately in the "work hit hard" timeline.
I really want to address something quickly.
On page 17 (default) after Imp and I talk about pirates but before FoU says anything:
I should point out, I can recruit 3 pirates at end of Day 1, and no more.
EuchreJack omg. Okay, Pirates are scum. They are red. They need to die for town to win. I'd vote you myself but maybe you're jester (I don't know if there are jester).
Why are you telling us this?
Webadict, if you're taking votes for that power use, I am considering nominating EuchreJack, mindful that this may be a bad idea.
We should, based on what I have been told, treat that as equivalent to EuchreJack offering to nominate folks into the mafia team - it's just the other scumteam, if that is what red means. Based on the wording of my PM, it is also possible that there are scum teams that do not yet exist, or there may be more than 2.
Hm, no.
Imp
Only reason I'm not voting you is because you suddenly posted this after my vote on Toonyman, who also seems to be making wrong assumptions about pirates.
Scum team Imp & Toonyman?
What wrong assumption of pirates are we making here? I think this is a very odd thing to say.
Just after:
I'd say you could recruit me, but it would be a bad idea.
Awh, and we did so well until evil Toonyman joined us. 
Oh well, guess others get the chance.
EuchreJack, you really need to answer my question; it wasn't just aimless rolefishing. What, exactly, does being made a Pirate do besides give access to a group chat?
It changes your alignment inspection to Pirate.
As you can probably have guessed by my softclaim to Toony of "Millers shouldn't claim", my alignment inspect is also Pirate.
Funny thing about those two: I can't see anything that says Pirate is mafia. For all I know, Pirate inspects as teal, brown, blue. In other words, my assumption was that it is a third-party inspection, not a mafia inspection.
Jack: Please do not recruit Max or Toony. I would prefer not to explain why I am making this request until day 2, but will if it is insisted upon.
Max said it would be a bad idea to recruit him, and that is good enough for me.
I was never going to recruit Toony. He's too tricky as scum to risk it, and he's talented enough as town to not need it. He also got way too many chats in one of the Kill Webadict Nows, so there is a bit of compassion in that as well.
Also: See my above post as my "opening salvo".
Jack muses how he alignment inspects as Pirate but doesn't see anywhere that he's mafia. Hold on to that thought.
Later, when FoU confirns things in the thread:
FallacyofUrist I wish to ask you here: Pirates, if pirates exist or come to exist, would they be anti-town?
In the opening post, I state that no alignments outside of the listed ones may exist. Pirates are not explicitly listed as an alignment. However...
(Very Rare, Requires Large Game) The other scumteam may take up any villainous-sounding factional name. They share the same rules and win condition as the Mafia - and yes, they will need to fight the Mafia in order to achieve their win condition, and vice versa, because it turns out this town isn't big enough for two groups of murderers.
The only way for Pirate to be an alignment would be for it to be a scumteam alignment.
Fuck you Fallacy. Yes, I believe I am allowed to say that, since you've fucked me pretty hard.
Who says this if they were town?
This is my interpretation:
On page 17 (default) when Jack isn't aware he's a MAFIA Pirate he talks very casually and normal. On pages 19 and 20 he realizes he's actually mafia and this is why he flips out and specifically gets mad at FoU for fucking him over. This is far too strong a reaction for a player who is simply a miller. If Jack was a miller like me his attitude would not have been this sour.
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I think NQT is a decent Mafia pick, not my first pick but I wish they would help more.
