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After the FoU town flip I looked extensively into Bluarian's interactions with Jim and NQT.

I needed to decide who to block after all.

I didn't take written notes, but I came to the conclusion that FoU was correct that Jim is the partner.

Since I'm not dead I'm going to build a case for Jim and NQT today.

I'll lose my mind if it isn't FoU.

lolololololol

here we go!!!!!!!!!

I know you're trying to psyche me out, but even if you're town I have a 50/50 chance of stopping the kill on myself.

FoU claim:
Selected Archaeologist, starts with no items.
Started game with nothing.
N1:
1. Went questing and found a common Scroll of Joined Fate.
2. Used Scroll of Joined Fates on Jim, but was randomized to me by NQT.
N2:
1. Went questing and found a Potion of Volume.
2. Couldn't do anything else.

Currently possess a Potion of Volume.

Jim claim:
Random Scavenger, starts with a common item.
Started game with a common Scroll of Shapeshift.
N1:
1. Went questing and found a common Scroll of Insight and Scroll of Hallucination.
2. Used Scroll of Hallucination on NQT.
3. Received a Potion of Invincibility from TricMagic.
N2:
1. Went questing and found a common Scroll of Protection and Scroll of Enchant Weapon.
2. Used Scroll of Protection on NQT.

Currently possess a Scroll of Shapeshift, a Scroll of Insight, a Potion of Invincibility, and a Scroll of Enchant Weapon.

NQT claim:
Random Scavenger, starts with a common item.
Started game with a common Scroll of Remove Curse.
N1:
1. Went questing and found a common Scroll of Confusion and Scroll of Protection.
2. Used Scroll of Confusion on Blue, was randomized to FoU by Jim.
N2:
1. Went questing and found an uncommon Wand of Shapeshift and a common Scroll of Curse Armor (I guess Scavenger can roll for two different rarities?).
2. Used Scroll of Protection on Toony.

Currently possess a Scroll of Remove Curse, a Wand of Shapeshift, and a Scroll of Curse Armor.

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...Okay screw it, let's kill FoU.

Shorten

NQT pushed for town to shorten D2 and just wagon Blue, silencing the day. Honestly NQT bussing Blue sounds more plausible than Jim doing it. Another thing to consider if FoU is town.

Why would mafia!FoU confirm that Tric is mechanically cleared? It makes me and Tric confirmed town instead of just me.

See how easy this is?

@NQT:
Why haven't you given an item list? Spill the beans. Tell us what you got and when.

See, in this situation as town I would be really trying to push a case on who I think we should be voting instead. I would be stamping my feet and having a hissy fit that my lynching is wrong and it shouldn't be done. For example look at EoD1 in BYOR15.

You could argue that scum would do the same, and, you're right. Scum could and should do the same.

But there's a difference. FoU has no compelling cases because they're fiction. A town!FoU would be pushing for Jim harder, trying to find the one post that solves the game. But they can't, because no such solve exists. The self-vote and shortening is a pure mafia move. It either makes us doubt they could be mafia or ends their suffering sooner. It's a pure emotional appeal and I'm not falling for it again.

FoU, you can still push for Jim today. Tric is a swing vote, if you convince me I am also a swing vote. That's three votes on Jim. If you're town you should be able to solve Jim. I think you realize you can't because you're mafia and therefore are retreating to the self-sacrifice play that either keeps you alive another day or ends the game sooner, which makes far more sense from a mafia POV.

Why even bother if you're going to self-vote?