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Mafia / Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« on: May 04, 2021, 05:03:04 pm »
What happens if the vote is tied? Do we go to a second voting round like the game?
Yeah, ties end in a 24 hour extension runoff between the two players tied. If it ties again then we no lynch.

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Mafia / Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« on: May 04, 2021, 03:32:22 pm »
I'll vote Vector if Blu does.

Gnosia can't bus their partner or it's certain loss for them.

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Mafia / Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« on: May 04, 2021, 12:09:22 pm »
Caz is never town here, but they're very likely ACF which is not great.

I'm currently debating whether to go with 80% Gnosia / 20% town BK or 80% ACF / 20% Gnosia Caz.

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Mafia / Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« on: May 04, 2021, 11:45:08 am »
Hmmm, NQT brings up good points. I want to bag Blue and Vector together, but Vector could be purposely setting Blu up for failure by behaving the same as Revolution III.

Basically Vector is more scummy than Blue, but Vector also has Engy protection so I really don't want to chance it today.

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Mafia / Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« on: May 04, 2021, 11:35:45 am »
PFP

That post you quoted  Web is exactly why I think Vector is lying. Their interaction with Caz there makes no sense.

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Mafia / Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« on: May 04, 2021, 09:49:45 am »
If BK is telling the truth then Jack dies tonight for sure...uuurrggh...why...

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Mafia / Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« on: May 04, 2021, 09:37:42 am »
Since I'm on the chopping block - I'll state this now. Kill me, and your chances of survival drop immensely.

Why? I'm the Guardian Angel.
Okay. You realize you're dead tonight if we don't put you in cold sleep right?

Why would you claim in the first place? Having the Gnosia not know whether the Guardian is around or not still is ideal.

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Mafia / Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« on: May 04, 2021, 08:53:58 am »
Web is right. One true Coroner allows us to fact check the Engineers. If both get human we leave them alone for now unless we hit Gnosia today.

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Mafia / Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« on: May 04, 2021, 07:50:48 am »
Oh right, Jack wasn't counter-claimed...so we can just cold sleep the Engineer that comes back as Gnosia to see if it's true. But of course then the fake will always say the other came back Gnosia. We'll end up with either a one human/one Gnosia result, or a both Gnosia result.

Normally in this setup the AC Follower fake-claims Engy or Coroner, while one of the Gnosia fake-claims the other PR. The remaining Gnosia lay low as Crewmates. This discrepancy is confusing me.

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Mafia / Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« on: May 04, 2021, 07:45:23 am »
If both Vector and Web "inspect" each other and come back saying the other one is Gnosia, town will have gained very little from the exercise. We already know one of them is scum.
Let me think about this.

The Engineers inspecting each other the first night will lead to:

If both inspect human:
One is real, one is AC follower.

If one inspects Gnosia, one inspects human:
One is real, one is Gnosia.
OR
One is real, one is AC Follower.

If both inspect Gnosia:
One is real, one is Gnosia.

Do you see the problem? I can see the problem.

The fake knows what they'll come back as, so they can claim the middle scenario which gets us nowhere fast. They don't even need to claim second because they know what they inspect as.

For example, if Web is real and Vector is Gnosia. Vector is going to say that Web came back human. We don't actually learn anything, know that I think about it.

So...I don't think Engineers should inspect each other. Can anyone see anything wrong with my logic?

The Engineers should both pick someone they think won't be killed tonight (that isn't Jack or the other Engineer).

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Mafia / Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« on: May 03, 2021, 08:08:40 pm »
No that's a question for Bluarian.

Actually, reads from everyone would be cool. I've already done mine and it hasn't changed.

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Mafia / Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« on: May 03, 2021, 06:50:16 pm »
Who should we be voting instead Bluarian?

Your species will be confirmed tomorrow so I would make some reads if you're human.

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Mafia / Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« on: May 03, 2021, 12:28:03 pm »
Tric.

AC Followers are humans that want to lie.

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Mafia / Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« on: May 03, 2021, 10:10:56 am »
Caz unclaiming is the worst possible thing they could have done as AC Follower which is what's baffling me.

There's no way the AC follower wouldn't fake-claim, it's their greatest strength...

Maybe they're doing this to draw the lynch? But it's so early in the game and maintaining a fake-claim is so much more advantageous. I can't figure if Caz is AC or Gnosia.

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Mafia / Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« on: May 03, 2021, 09:59:45 am »
Sorry, I meant to say Vector could be either real Engy, Gnosia, or AC Follower if Web comes back human.

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