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Jim
Your play was okay. Your reads were somewhat accurate, town-clearing TricMagic and Bluarian, but you aggressively pressured Jack for some reason? On the flipside, you dying first was almost guaranteed and it cleared Jack as town since a Nightmare!Jack would be insane to kill you first. Jack claiming Best Friend after you pressured them even more in your one death post made him even more obvtown.

Bluarian
Your play was good. Being killed second made NQT extremely suspicious (why wouldn't NQT be killed second?) and your pro-town activity made the Nightmare think you were the Dreamer which gave KittyTac another day to work with.

KittyTac
Your play was good. You were obviously either the Dreamer or Nightmare based on your lurking. I was very worried you were actually the Nightmare, but went with Dreamer instead which was correct. If you were the Nightmare this game would have been yours easily. On the other hand, I'm surprised the Nightmare didn't figure you were the Dreamer based on your behind-the-scenes play.

EuchreJack
Your play was okay. Claiming Best Friend was risky (since it removes a daykill target for the Nightmare), but in this case a smart move as Jim was pressuring you hard and it made you confirmed town. NQT even asking for a counter-claim is bizarre as no Nightmare would claim Best Friend ever. In the end you made the right choice which is what matters, even if I feel Blue and Tric did most of the work there.

TricMagic
I don't know what to say. You were obviously town in this game because your reason and logic made absolutely no sense. The fact you make more sense as scum is disheartening, but your suspicions of NQT were correct at least.

NQT
Killing Jim first was fine. Killing Blue second was a huge mistake. Did you really think Blue was the Dreamer?

Let me just list some big moments in the game that felt extremely scummy to me and why I ultimately decided you were the Nightmare:

1.

Quote from: EuchreJack on April 23, 2021, 12:10:43 am

Guess what losers? I'm the fucking Best Friend@!

EVERYONE is there a counterclaim to this?

Asking this is scummy. It doesn't make sense from a town POV.

2.

Quote from: BluarianKnight on April 23, 2021, 11:32:06 am

If NQT wasn't leaking his scumtells from every pore, I'd put my vote on you.

You keep saying this... but you're unable to coherently explain your thoughts. Give me a case!

Demanding cases is scummy, look at spy!Blue and spy!Tric's play in Revolution III.

"You have no proof!!" are the words of scum.

3.
I noticed that you were online when Blue was killed, but didn't post at all.

A lurking NQT is always scum, town!NQT would have posted immediately with something. Even KittyTac posted to say he would be back on later.

When you finally do post it's this:

Tric I explained why I thought it was fine to vote when I replied to Jim.
Thoughts
So either Tric or Kitty is the Nightmare: Tric is being obtuse and evasive. Kitty has laid low and been noncommittal. This is horrible bind to be in. Made worse, if we wait either one of them will die as a friend or Euchre will catch the bullet as the bestie. 
If A: then Euchre can help make the final choice between the two and we have a decent chance of winning. I'll know for certain who the Nightmare will be. (I'm betting Tric, but could be K).
If B: We have no extra information, Euchre won't be here to help and it'll be a three way finger point.
Tric, what do you think of Kitty's play? Actually look at the posts.

You don't direct a case on either Tric or Kitty being the Nightmare, and instead try to push Tric and Kitty onto each other. It's scummy.

You should be pointing a finger at Tric or Kitty at this point, not waffling.

@NQT:

It's sort of frustrating to me that Tric et al were completely correct about me being the Nightmare, but they were unable to explain any kind of reason for believing so. Guess it didn't matter in the end.

Don't worry, I can give concrete reasons to help in the future. I was following this game closely.

Hehehe, I have some words to say once the results are posted.

Helpful Whisperer (town)
(Auto) Quiet Voice: You may not post in the thread unless you are voting, and only to vote.
(Auto) Whisper: You can communicate with any player at any time via PMs regardless of the game rules.
(Auto, Dead) From Beyond the Grave: You may continue to PM one player of your choice while dead. You will have access to dead chat.

Boy Who Cried Wolf (mafia)
(Night) Wolf! Wolf! Wooooolf! [target]: Watch the target, learning any player(s) that targets them. On the following morning you will publicly cry out your results unless you received none.
(Night) Cry Wolf [target]: On the following morning you will publicly cry out that your target was seen visiting a random player that died the previous night, unless nobody died.
(Mafiakill, Night 3+) Woolf! For real this time!! [target1, target2]: Kill target1. On the following morning you will publicly cry out that target2 was seen visiting target1.

Hot Dog Vendor (serial killer)
(Item) Hot Dog: A tasty hot dog.
(Item) Poisoned Hot Dog: A tasty hot dog. The player isn't told it's poisoned.
(Night) Handout Hot Dogs [target1, target2]: Give a Hot Dog to target1 and a Poisoned Hot Dog to target2. They are informed they received a hot dog.
(One-Shot, Night) Chow Down: Every player with at least one hot dog will eat their hot dogs. If one hot dog is poisoned they will die the next night. If two hot dogs are poisoned they'll die at the end of the next day. If three or more hot dogs are poisoned they'll die the same night. Players aren't told they're poisoned.

EDIT:
Nerfed From Beyond the Grave.
Made Hot Dog Vendor more interesting.

Sorry I don't play any mobile games.

On the topic of games though:

Amusingly, one day after finishing Case 3 of DGS2 on my 3DS, DGS1+2 were announced for an English release at the end of July. Capcom are going with the name The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles and it will be on most platforms. I swear this keeps happening to me where a big announcement happens whenever I do something.

If you care about Ace Attorney at all (like myself) this is very good news if you're interested in playing half of the 3DS library. The only AA game that hasn't been officially localized now is Investigations 2 on DS and it likely never will. The fan translation is excellent however.

In the meantime, while waiting for Great AA to come out, Nintendo are releasing remakes of Famicom Detective Club Parts 1 and 2 on the Switch in May. I've played Part 2 on SNES and it was very good so these are likely going to be worth playing as well if you're interested in point & click murder mysteries at all. I'm quite a fan and seek out translations when they happen such as Chunsoft's classic Portopia that really kicked off the genre in Japan.

Let's try this again.

Stickied.

Also, shouldn't Bastard Paranormal 2 be under Bastard games instead of normal?

It should.

The description also isn't very... descriptive.

I think Bastard Paranormal 3 is a pretty strong contender for being notable. It's not exactly a game of mafia even if it starts as one, but it is indisputably something special and memorable.

I would say yes, under Bastard games.

EDIT:
Surprisingly, there are no Supernatural games in the notable list so I suppose having at least one would be appropriate. As for which one? Hard to say. I have a personal favorite, but I know others like Toaster have a different one in mind.