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: The discussion prompted me to try to update my avatar but it won't let me load in a new image url.

I had that issue last time too, if it's hanging and then going to a white screen after a minute I would try again later.

Amnesaic power roles can be neat.

For example, an amnesiac cop who thinks they're a vanilla townie until a specific day or night.

We should have a game where most players are amnesiac power roles and there's a couple psychiatrists that can "cure" them at night.

I didn't send a number ... I just asked for "something interesting to do" :V

what does that say about me, toony >_>

It reveals everything about you.

It says:

I have a sneaking suspicion web is going to make me a survivor this game just to spite me.

I also may or may not have not sent in a number because I didn't read the OP.

If I see a single non-town claim...

Quote from: Toaster on March 12, 2021, 12:01:50 pm

I am curious if the sent in numbers actually come into play or if they are a psychological experiment, but that's just delicious mod WIFOM.

Wanted to see how many people want to be Town and non-Town.

The answer is easy to explain.

Someone who chooses a high number values guaranteed trust and companionship of a few over lying/dishonesty to everyone else.

Someone who chooses a low number values truth/honesty and earning/giving the trust of others.

Is one of these the right choice? Personally, I value being honest to anyone (at the cost of betrayal) and would never pick a high number unless it felt fitting to a role I had in mind, which I'm not saying is the case or not here.

My intuition told me that Web was the mafia when he tried to defend Vector. I'm not sure why no one saw that.

Then post saying that and vote him!! I can't agree with someone who isn't pushing any cases.

You felt extremely town to me at the end of Day 2 because you naturally felt I was misguided town while Webadict was playing cool and relaxed, this is what "reads" are and it's important to state them. During the course of a game I recommend looking at each player and thinking "How would they post if they were mafia? As town? Is what they're saying making me feel indicative of that? Why?" After doing this for each player in the game, post your thoughts in the thread.

Like-minded players will probably share similar feelings, and that can be a sign that you're both town. On the other hand if somebody is being too friendly with you that means they don't show any distrust of you, which is suspicious.

My first, and biggest, personal failing was trusting 4maskwolf's survivor claim wholeheartedly on Day 1. I did not suspect him of being mafia at all, but I should have considered a malicious third-party, especially after MVM2 fucked me over at the end with Secretdorf. 4maskwolf being the top poster and always active in the thread will skew my perspective of a player as pro-town and trying to be helpful. This is true for Webadict as well, probably the second most active poster after me.

My second personal failing was doubting you, Lucky, again on Day 3, after Jim lied to Vector about you taking their devil deal, when I should have disregarded anything a player that has already lost would say. It's not even the same as if Jim was mafia, Jim was a solo third-party with no obligation to tell the truth or lie. His remarks should have been fully disregarded and ignored. Instead I soaked up the propaganda and reverted my trust of Lucky that was built at the end of Day 2. If Webadict was town this wouldn't have been fatal, but they weren't, and it truly cost town the game.

Like I said myself on Day 3:

Lucky, if you're town this is the most important day of your life.

You need to explain to me why you're town and who is scum.

Who is the Dark Magus?
Who is the convert?
Where is the second kill coming from?

If this is all a ploy to deceive town and cause us to mislynch you I don't think we can recover from it.

If you are playing to town's wincon you will take this seriously and answer me.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

So, during one loop, the Crew found a game-breaking strategy. Since the Masons (in this game, called "Guard Duty") are guaranteed to be Crew, and no one can counter-claim the Mason group...why not put all the other players into "cold sleep"? This would mean the Crew wins...right?

Wrong. Because now the two Masons control the ship outright and you are literally at their mercy. Even if the Masons are not scum, one of the Masons may be distrustworthy for other, lore-related reasons. It turns out pursuing the game-breaker quickly becomes a bad idea for everyone...both Crew and Gnosia.

I saw that ending a few days ago, pretty WTF.


I think I'm almost done with Gnosia, it's hard to tell.

I enjoy the characters and setting, but the writing is very short and fast-paced compared to Raging Loop. I was hoping for at least a couple loops being somewhat longer (maybe like an hour or two to read?), but it turns into more of a "find every really weird circumstance that can happen". At least 80% of my playtime is grinding through loops now that I have the game's systems down pat. It is in fact too much repetition for new content by this point.

What they should have done is have a main Story Mode that's the bulk of the game, with scripted roles and events and a more slower paced setup. And then once you've finished the Story Mode you would unlock Endless Mode which would be what we have here with the crazy What If? scenarios and endings.

I still like the game, and it's fun to participate as an actual player, but the lack of long-term story means you need to add a lot of your own imagination to things.

Is Lucky more of an asset to scum when they are scum or when they are town?

Lucky was the only player that "pushed" a case on scum, Webadict.

And by push I mean lurked a lot then voted them for completely reasonable reasons (and ones he should have pursued further) then lurked some more.

His Day 1 plan on lynching Web to check and then reviving him...hoo boy if we actually listened.

If I'd have done nothing Lucky would have died, which would have probably been for the best to avoid the painful Priest uncertainty.

Agreed. No Lucky after D1 would have been...different.