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Mafia / Re: Supernatural 10 - Day 2 has a full house
« on: March 02, 2021, 08:37:47 am »
I ask Meph if my ability will trigger if I'm night killed and he gave more than what I asked and said that my night action is low on the pirority list so If I'm interuppted my night action won't go through. So if I were converted then Blu wouldn't be here.
Where? In scumchat?

From my understanding your conversion would happen and then you would perform your resurrection as your new alignment. So you're lying.

@MOD:
A conversion wouldn't stop a priest from performing their resurrection the same night, correct?

Kills happen during that time too, so if somebody killed you that would also prevent the res. Scum decided not to do that either apparently.

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural 10 - Day 2 has a full house
« on: March 02, 2021, 08:28:37 am »
MOD
I forgot to ask some questions earlier that 4mask reminded me of while reading, let's fix that.
@MOD:
Can third-party be converted?
Is every town role convertable? If not, which ones fail and what is the outcome?
Some of them. It depends on the role and sometimes who's doing the converting.
Most are. Sorcerers are immune to night actions and Monster Hunters either die to a conversion or are immune (depending on who's doing the conversion).
Which third-party can be converted?



Toony:  Why do you think Lucky is not a terrible lynch?
Because he's scum. I'm more convinced he's been scum all along to be honest. I want to trust Web's read but I can't.

Lucky feels...heavily filtered.

1. His posts have been sparse and delayed. He hasn't pushed any cases, he's only popped in to say he's town and to defend himself.

2. Someone else on his team could be the priest, meaning Lucky is still a possible converter (being completely puppeteered by his partners but still).

3. He has voted three times:
First on Day 1 to lynch a player he suspected as strong town so he can bring them back as confirmed?? (sure he says Web could be mafia, but Web isn't in their three mafia picks)
Second on Day 1 to save himself from getting lynched over Blue.
First on Day 2 as an OMGUS against 4maskwolf.

Complete shit votes that are either a terrible plan or to protect himself. Has not scum-hunted at all, which brings me to my next point.

4. He has actively participated less than Juicebox and Secretdorf and they're not even playing.

5. Claims a Devil visited them on Night 1 and they declined the offer. Lucky doesn't even fully read threads he's in as town, there's no way he would read other games. This smart-tell from Lucky makes me believe his scummates are assisting heavily.

Why wouldn't Lucky, a complete newb, accept a Devil deal?

"I just used up my priest revive, having another ability would surely help town."

The whole thing is fishy.

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural 10 - Day 2 has a full house
« on: March 02, 2021, 12:11:09 am »
I forgot to ask some questions earlier that 4mask reminded me of while reading, let's fix that.

@MOD:
Can third-party be converted?
Is every town role convertable? If not, which ones fail and what is the outcome?

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural 10 - Day 2 has a full house
« on: March 01, 2021, 10:07:24 pm »
If you'd like to argue you're too obvious of a pick, I also can't argue against that one either. Which is why we pretty much just need to soft reset our reads list. I'm worried that you didn't soft reset and pushed me higher, which is totally wrong. I mean, if you want to argue I was Town D1, fine, but D1's gone. We're in D2, and we need reads that reflect it. You're gonna have to judge me by Today's standards first and then you should use Yesterday's to reinforce it or show changes.
To be fair, my updated reads were written during Night 1. I'll be reevaluating through the course of Day 2.

Since Juicebox is replacing out I can't really get a response from them...you think they would at least tell us their Night 1 dream.

@TricMagic: Why did you claim Knight on Day 1? You realize that would only help scum?

@Blue: Don't kill anybody by targeting them twice in a row. Don't tell us who you're going to roleblock until after doing it, but we will want to know then. Why do you think Lucky is town? My suspicion is that you want to cover him, is this true?

@Luckyowl: Not only are you a pragmatic elimination target, but I think your play has been very anti-town. Now that you've done your sneaky Priest res what now? Why do you think scum would ignore a town priest if you're telling the truth? Who are you going to vote?

The Devil should probably claim if they exist...

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural 10 - Day 2 has a full house
« on: March 01, 2021, 08:28:54 pm »
You wound me Web.

I would be more surprised I wasn't converted except for the fact that, you know...there's Lucky the Priest around.

If Lucky wasn't converted (so either scum all along or somehow town) then maybe I'm too obvious a pick? I think me and Jim would have been the most obvious, which makes us a reason to avoid (unless Jim is actually scum). To that extent that makes me suspect you, Web, the most as a "smart" convert pick.

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural 10 - Day 2 has a full house
« on: March 01, 2021, 06:40:13 pm »
Toony
Wow scummy. Holding information hostage to stay alive.
Not at all.
1. It's information in the vote record anyone can see.
2. No one else believes in this stuff but me, so who am I holding it hostage from?
3. The information is more useful to me if scum don't know to tailor their actions to what they think I'm looking for. 4mask can confirm this last point, as he's done exactly that before. I want to be able to perform the same analysis on D2, so I'm not sharing what exactly I'm looking for/what I'm including or discluding until another day has passed.
I disagree. I just recently saw you pull this card on Day 3 of MVM2.



@MOD:
Can a town priest's res fail so hard they bring back a townie as mafia? Can a mafia priest's res fail so hard they bring back a townie as town?
Yes to both.
Welp.

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural 10 - Day 2 has a full house
« on: March 01, 2021, 06:22:21 pm »
I did a bit of classic Unique Targets analysis. I'm not posting the full results until at least D3 (4mask tried to game this metric in a previous game + you guys don't probably read it when I post stuff like this) but what I will say is:
Wow scummy. Holding information hostage to stay alive.

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural 10 - Day 2 has a full house
« on: March 01, 2021, 06:18:28 pm »
But yeah, we need to find the converter*.  Let's quickly review who it can and can't be:
I agree with your list (although I wouldn't be surprised if Tric thought it would be funny to claim VT as a Cult Leader). I think a converter would most likely be one of the following:

webadict
Jim
NQT
IcyTea
Vector
Persus
Toaster
TricMagic

Out of these six I suspect Vector, Persus, and Toaster the most.

I am not a Devil.

As for Night 1 converts I suspect these players the most:

Luckyowl - free twofer
Toaster - for the memes
Webadict - towncore
Jim - towncore



stuff
I also don't believe Meph would use full cults again. This is almost certainly a one-shot conversion or the kill didn't go off for some reason.



We either have no Monster Hunter or they're smart enough not to blind fire on Night 1.

@MOD:
Can a town priest's res fail so hard they bring back a townie as mafia? Can a mafia priest's res fail so hard they bring back a townie as town?

I don't think either of these cases have ever happened. Either the res succeeds or they come back third-party.

In other words, if Lucky is town then Blue is 100% a Lone Vampire. If Lucky is mafia then Blue is possibly a Lone Vampire.

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural 10 - Day 2 has a full house
« on: March 01, 2021, 11:41:35 am »
We know Lucky Owl isn't the converter... it's absolutely not a priority to kill him today. That Toony of all people hasn't grasped that is a tick in the Toony Was Converted box.
Are you saying this is a Vampire Cult then? I thought vampire slaves didn't keep their roles.

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural 10 - Day 2 has a full house
« on: March 01, 2021, 11:19:23 am »
Wait, converts are before resurrections so it has to be a convert that let's them keep their ability.

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural 10 - Day 2 has a full house
« on: March 01, 2021, 11:18:06 am »
Doesn't seem like there was a kill last night.

Absolutely no reason scum wouldn't convert Luckyowl if they weren't already scum in the first place. Would also reasonably clear Blue as a Lone Vampire.

Still want to hear from Juice though.

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural 10 - Day 2 has a full house
« on: March 01, 2021, 09:12:50 am »
Devils can only offer certain oneshots I believe but they can say whatever they want to the player. I can't confirm if it's outing or not.

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural 10 - Day 2 has a full house
« on: March 01, 2021, 09:06:33 am »
So we have a Devil who thought Lucky would be foolish enough to accept a soul deal...

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural 10 - Day 2 has a full house
« on: March 01, 2021, 08:41:06 am »
Since we either don't have a monster hunter or they seem to be holstering, I'm pretty sure we always flip LuckyOwl today. Especially with the threat of a potential double-conversion, we need to flip him to check blue's alignment.
I'm cool with this if nobody is going to claim any kills.

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural 10 - Day 2 has a full house
« on: March 01, 2021, 12:58:32 am »
I'm going to bed soon, however there's a few things I would like to say.

First, I wrote down some notes during Night 1. Thankfully, I am alive so I can post it:

(Warning: Strong Language)

Nobody died so I don't need to cross anybody out, although we have Blue back now.

In summary after rereading...

1. I trust Webadict more, so I'm bumping Lucky out of scum for now.
2. I'm seriously suspicious of Juicebox and Vector's play at the end of Day 1.

My gut feeling is that Toaster and Juicebox are scum with a third being between...Lucky/Vector/Persus.

Second, some questions:

Juicebox, can you explain why you were actually reading EoD when you said you would be away? What did you see last night as a Dreamwalker?

Luckyowl, what happened last night? Did you res Blue?

Blue, how was last night? Are you still a Dreamwalker?



I hate cults.
A conversion is very possible last night. This kind of situation happened in Supernatural 7.

For reference, in Super7 I thought that Jack AT blocked the kill on Night 1, but what actually happened is that the Dark Magus converted Toaster. Toasted was inspected as town on Night 1, but conversions happen after inspections.

There's a chance the kill was prevent (for example, somebody redirected the kill onto TricMagic). But we would need somebody to claim if they're sure. There's also a chance that Lucky was protected from the kill.

I'm also fine with checking/lynching Lucky today, if Lucky flips town then Blue is either town or third-party right?



PPE:
Oh good, potential toofer.
Meph:  In the above circumstance, if they were an IMpious priest, would they convert to their team or unleash a third party as in past games?
If it goes wrong, it can go wrong in many different ways. But never as intended for the team the priest is on.
Oh. Great. Never mind what I just said.

I hate cults.
Are you still town?
Vector, I feel like you've been active-lurking. Your posts during the end of Day 1 leave me with a bad taste.

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