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Mafia / Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 4 - D1
« on: February 16, 2021, 04:22:21 pm »
True, if you aren't a level 1 Merchant yet we can start with that.

Everybody become a level 1 Merchant at the end of today if you aren't.

We should do a daisy-chain tonight, if somebody doesn't get a shield they can squeal on who the scum is they said they would sell them a shield.

PPE:
We can even disperse shields in a round table format to find out who didn't give a shield to someone they were supposed to. :L
Yes, this is way better than my initial plan. We do this tonight and then initiate Operation Spotlight after, all while constantly handing shields to each other.

At night all of us need to spam our tracking, watching, and protects to detect or stop kills. Eventually we'll have a couple level 5 Surveyors that can all spam Spotlight to catch anybody using the mafiakill, among all the tracking and watching and protecting the rest of town will be doing as well. This will force the mafia to have to use other kills instead, and because only mafia will be performing kill/poison/infecting/doping at night we can still out them, got it?
It isn't guaranteed that we have any Town surveyors at all though, is it?
Yes, but we can make it happen. Plus with this round robin shield strategy we'll all be protected from standard kills.

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Mafia / Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 4 - D1
« on: February 16, 2021, 04:12:39 pm »
MOD Question:
Spotlight can stack, right? If there's more than one spotlight each one will roll 50% for each action?

Looking over this, I do see two problems that we'll need to address:

1. The Spy 1 ability can cover up a target's actions, so a scum partner could Coverup a buddy that's doing the kill.
Answer: We'll need to keep watch if somebody is targeting somebody with coverup, it's a vile action as well.

2. The Pellucid Llama species is hidden from enlightenment abilities.
Answer: We'll need to identify if there's any llamas with the Surveyor 1 ability, Check Papers.

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Mafia / Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 4 - D1
« on: February 16, 2021, 04:01:45 pm »
The Game Break Strategy (for Town, sorry):
I don't see the point in most of the investigates, other than truth verification. The good ones I see are Spy 2(Track), Surveyor 4(Watch), and Surveyor 5 (50% of actions tonight are public).
They're worth it, especially if Surveyor 5 uncovers the mafia kill. But they won't win the game, and so a strong day game, and doing more than relying on investigates, remains important.
This is very true.

There are no alignment inspects in this game, we have no true cops.

What we have in exchange are:

Tracking (Spy 2), Watching (Surveyor 4), and Protection (Doctor 2, Merchant 1).

We should all be working towards level 5 Surveyor, starting today.

If you already have 1 or 2 levels in Monk or Doctor then continue leveling that up instead because the level 5s are very pro-town. If a doctor starts infecting people instead we can kill them, more on that later.

If you really don't want to go into Surveyor for whatever reason, then go into Spy (only up to level 2), Merchant (only up to level 1), Doctor (all the way), or Monk (all the way).

We have role-blocks and misdirects and vote stealing and other goofy stuff, but I consider those neutral and risky so we should avoid if possible.

Lastly we have kills/poison/infection/doping which I am going to considering anti-town from this moment forward.

At night all of us need to spam our tracking, watching, and protects to detect or stop kills. Eventually we'll have a couple level 5 Surveyors that can all spam Spotlight to catch anybody using the mafiakill, among all the tracking and watching and protecting the rest of town will be doing as well. This will force the mafia to have to use other kills instead, and because only mafia will be performing kill/poison/infecting/doping at night we can still out them, got it?

A player becomes aware if they've become poisoned, infected, or doped. They should claim if this ever happens to them.

Spread the love, baby.



@Caz:
Caz too, come on guys don't give scum a free pass...
Why is asking questions givng scum a free pass? You ask everyone questions and it's lazy, you ask only certain people questions and it's lazy. What's the problem? Surely more information is good?
Asking questions isn't scummy. Doing the same thing to match everyone else, is.

By choosing everyone in your RVS you do not single any players out, it makes post-death rereads harder to scrutinize if you flip mafia.

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Mafia / Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 4 - D1
« on: February 16, 2021, 03:30:52 pm »
@FoU:
ToonyMan: What kinda bullshit is Web pulling this game?
I don't know. I'm kind of curious why he puts Luckyowl and Vector at the top of a very obvious and lazy RVS post.

Why did you do that Webadict?

Speaking of lazy RVS posts, same goes for you FoU and Nirur. Where's the soul? The personality? You're copy-pasting the OP list instead of choosing players yourself to RVS with.

PPE:
Caz too, come on guys don't give scum a free pass...



@Nirur:
Toony: You claim that you've almost never been voted D1 as scum, but you've been voted here. Since you've been double voted now, are you double confirmed as town?
Yes.



@TricMagic:
To TM(not me the other TM), bit harsh to claim us as the lower players. Who do you think should die first for the Greater Good of town?(the answer isn't the bad players it's the scummy ones.)
I've only seen your play actively harm town. However, yes I think Lucky should die first before you Tric.

What can you change to help? Are you willing to change?

PPE:
This is the shit I'm talking about. How are you helping here?



@mightymashymre:
Toonyman, I have two games on this subforum. I ... would not rate my own performance highly. Honestly,
*deep breath*
I'm naturally an introvert and simply joining up for this socially aggressive exercise was quite the challenge. Kind of a low bar, I know. I have been watching games during the interim since I last played; I've convinced myself that I've absorbed a better sense of how to read town from scum but whether I can put it into practice is a question I won't be able to answer until we're done here.
Sounds good.

Secretdorf, ToonyMan: Do you think parakeetkin should be forthcoming with what goes on in their quicktopic?
No, parakeetkins should stay quiet unless they've outed scum or can reason it as highly likely.



@Caz:
Toony
What if I said I was poisoned? Was it you? Would town use poison?
I'd use poison if I was reasonably sure I was targetting mafia, yeah.
Interesting, I'm about to unveil a game-breaking strategy so hold onto your seats.

Jim Groovester: Should you claim if your lover is about to be lynched?
Any reason you pick Jim and lover as the flaw for this question? Asking for a friend.

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Mafia / Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 4 - D1
« on: February 16, 2021, 11:25:13 am »
I just realized I lied so I'm going to correct that.

4maskwolf voted me in Vengeful 12.5 right at Day start, that's the only example of me being voted Day 1 as mafia.

So yeah that would prove Secret is mafia if I was also mafia this game, but I'm not unfortunately so nothing to really go on there...

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Mafia / Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 4 - D1
« on: February 16, 2021, 11:10:17 am »
MOD Question:
This game consists of 11 town players and 3 mafia players and 0 anything else, correct?

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Mafia / Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 4 - D1
« on: February 16, 2021, 11:07:52 am »
@Secretdorf:
Hello Toonyman, sorry if I made a fool of you.
Is this a question? Being voted Day 1 proves I'm town at least so thanks.

I haven't been voted Day 1 as mafia in over 5 years.



@Webadict:
ToonyMan, djwj fjrjsow djtkw fkakw, gms?
Gri ny iye ny drsc dy wo?



@TricMagic, Luckyowl:
You're not helpful as town, what can you change to help? Do you want to help this game?

@mightymushroom, Egan BW:
I don't really know you, how do you plan to help? Do you have past games you can show as evidence?

@Juicebox:
Gonna lurk? The player with the least amount of posts has consistently been mafia lately, will this be true here?

@Vector:
Is Webadict right that you're in a mafiachat with him? Who is the third member? Toaster? Jim? Me?

@Caz:
What if I said I was poisoned? Was it you? Would town use poison?

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Mafia / Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 4 - Signups & Gamebreaking Phase - [11/?]
« on: February 14, 2021, 11:34:54 pm »
Ugh, killed in teammafia by world's highest-lead-content-by-volume vig.

Fine. In.

>:(
ngl how does it feel

being killed in a game
that gives me a headache just reading lol

Vector pretty sus though

*gif*

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Mafia / Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 4 - Signups & Gamebreaking Phase - [7/?]
« on: February 13, 2021, 11:21:47 pm »
Watching for now. I'll hem and haw for a while about whether I want to join and by the time I make a decision the game will have started.
Just be a replacement!
or ... you could in ...
That would require Jim putting his perfect win rate in jeopardy.

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Mafia / Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 4 - Signups & Gamebreaking Phase - [7/?]
« on: February 13, 2021, 12:26:36 pm »
Reasons for not letting players borrow the mafiakill in the Parakeetkin chat:
1. The mafiakill is a factional kill. A non-mafia player using a mafiakill sounds weird.
2. More than likely at least one mafia player won't be a Parakeetkin, which means the borrowing player is trying to use something that isn't even fully the player they're borrowing from.

Reasons for letting players borrow the mafiakill in the Parakeetkin chat:
1. Can lead to interesting situations where if the mafia isn't able to perform their kill for whatever reason and every mafia left is a Parakeetkin, another player could borrow the mafiakill and probably off someone. This would confirm to that player that somebody in the Parakeetkin chat is 100% mafia. This is quite bad for the mafia if there's only two Parakeetkins.
2. More than likely the mafia will be using their kill, so disallowing non-mafia from using the mafiakill is pointless.

I can't say which is a better choice. Letting town use the mafiakill could be more interesting, but it feels wrong to me.

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Mafia / Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 4 - Signups & Gamebreaking Phase - [7/?]
« on: February 13, 2021, 10:41:36 am »
You shouldn't let town use the mafiakill, no.

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Mafia / Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 4 - Signups & Gamebreaking Phase - [7/?]
« on: February 13, 2021, 10:34:54 am »
Couldn't you list off every ability in the game and see what works?

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Mafia / Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 4 - Signups & Gamebreaking Phase - [6/?]
« on: February 12, 2021, 10:20:15 pm »
Please tell me someone else is picking parakeetin.
Absolutely. I don't see the problem with every player in the game sharing their abilities.

If there's only one Parakeetin (somehow) does the chosen player have to become an honorary Parakeetin? Does the honorary Parakeetin share their abilities as well?

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Mafia / Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 4 - Signups & Gamebreaking Phase - [6/?]
« on: February 12, 2021, 09:22:55 pm »
You think Lylowl needs the handicap the rest of us share of picking their character? They'll get what they want regardless.

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Mafia / Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 4 - Signups & Gamebreaking Phase
« on: February 12, 2021, 06:04:04 pm »
Thanks Toony, I've reworded both sections for clarity.
I see, so your profession will always be random no matter what.

Sending my species now.

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