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Sofanthiel is voted by hector and maximumI can switch to Max if a tie looks likely. I think I'm okay trusting Elephant and Caz's judgment here.
Toonyman is voted by Tric and I
Maximum spin is voted by Elephant and Caz
Hector13 is voted by sofathiel and Toony
If my chart is correct then if the day ends now there would be a four-way tie and I'm considering changing my votes.
Sofanthiel wanted to team up with Elephant there to save me. Not sure why they bother as mafia, especially if they're so disengaged with the game.From my perspective, Sofanthiel's actions don't make sense if they're mafia.Could you explain why, for me?
How about Snowkiller then? I’ve said my preference would be sofanthiel, but there’s very little between them.I'm a bit opposed because now I would be siding with a player I suspect, but maybe I'm wrong and you're somehow right that's it's Sofanthiel and Snowkiller. That's the only reasoning I can see that makes sense. Which makes me look like a complete moron. A hard hurdle to cross...
I honestly think that sofanthiel is just a newbie not avoiding questions cause they're scum.I don't know why Crystal is seeing this and not Hector or Max.
Yeah, sure, sure...I'll be more interested in Max after D1 if they're around. I'm sure he feels the same about me.If I'm still around d2, I'll think it isn't you, honestly.
From my perspective, Sofanthiel's actions don't make sense if they're mafia.If so, we can probably team up and vote strategically because it doesn't currently look like Toony is making it through the lynching.I read this to mean, "Toonyman will definitely be lynched at the end at the end of the day, so we should strategically vote together for someone else." That's obvious nonsense because if a player is lynched, any votes for other players are necessarily symbolic, not strategic*... which probably should've been my first clue that that wasn't what you meant. I now think that you wanted to vote with me against another player in the hopes that that player would amass enough votes to be lynched instead of ToonyMan. Am I correct?
* In the sense that they don't matter to the immediate outcome of the vote
@Toony I did ask you to provide some posts as to why you think sofanthiel is heavily engaged in the game. I’m open to being convinced I’m wrong, though you presenting it as newbkilling when I’ve given them pleeeeeeenty opportunity to convince me otherwise is unfair.Sofanthiel has constantly been a part of this game.
My theory is that I don't think your scumpicks can make any sense because you're mafia. I think this is why in this post when I'm speculating worlds where you or Max are town the town!Hector world seems very unclear. You're trying to figure out which players you can get away with voting. You started by focusing on the newbies (whether or not Crystal is mafia is not relevant right now) and even though you said earlier in the game it was just to get their asses going, it's really just a way to not be happy with them and have them as your toppicks anyway.You are a cheeky mare if you expect me to take you asking me that question when you’ve ignored me asking who you think is scum and town for the entire bloody day, m80.I’ve been thinking it’s a newbie tied with a more experienced player for a bit. I was worried it might be you, but now I’m not so sure. Then again I think you’re the best player in terms of looking town, so… benefit of the doubt I guess. The next experienced player in line is Max.So you're judging who my teammate is based solely on their skill level, regardless of how town they seem? Isn't that a bit arbitrary? Who do you think it would be based on the actual interactions I've had and how I played?
… I’m using process of elimination, just not sharing my working out.
I think it’s one of you or Snowkiller right now, possibly even both, which would be a horrific baptism of fire for you but dems de breaks sometimes.
I’ve outlined why I think it’s not CM.
If sofanthiel and ToonyMan are neck and neck when I leave, I'll have to switch to sofanthiel. I'll take my #2 scumpick over my #1 townpick, even if my #1 and #~3-4 scumpicks are on their wagon. Would still prefer MS but nobody else seems interestedI'll be more interested in Max after D1 if they're around. I'm sure he feels the same about me.
Do you trust Elephant then? Or me for that matter?ToonyMan is my strongest townread right now. I've read the arguments against him and I still don't know what other people are seeing in him that I'm not.If so, we can probably team up and vote strategically because it doesn't currently look like Toony is making it through the lynching.
Both bits.Which bit?I think Caz is right in her assessment.I have no idea why you think this unless it's not your genuine feelings.
Toony suggesting sofanthiel has been heavily engaged with the game makes… very little sense to me, so I’m alright leaving my vote there for the time being.
I mean, you both joined a vote by agreeing with another player.Sofanthiel seems more like a player who would say "yeah, makes sense to me" than me(though I'm still someone who would go along with the more experienced) though I partially think it is because they're a newbie rather than any intentional malice.ToonyMan is my strongest townread right now. I've read the arguments against him and I still don't know what other people are seeing in him that I'm not.I think Caz is probably genuinely paranoid of me.
I'm more suspicious of players (Crystal, Hector) that nod their head and go "yeah, makes sense to me".
However, I don't see why you trust them so much yet incredibly suspicious of me. In fact your first post wasn't that much better than my first post. You were quicker to engage in discussion because you were more experienced not because I'm scum.It's relative, I found you more suspicious than the other new players. I've explained my feelings about that.
I don't really see why Elephant is a protected species by a lot of people. Crystals' still showcasing good posts, so still town read for me.Info-lynching is bad.
... My vote on Toony still stands as the most likely info lynch day 1. Though a single vote alone doesn't grant much.
I don't want to take my vote off sofanthiel but the day's almost over for me and I need to grill MaximumSpin, who I find even more suspicious. MS, I don't like how you pivoted from joking to bantering to mentoring to lurker-prodding to nothing. I'll give you points for attacking me, but you haven't actually presented your case, just alluded to it a couple of times:This is pretty in line for Max, whether he's town or scum. I give him slight townpoints for seemingly feeling the same way I was feeling at the time, but that only actually reinforces my townread of Tric.
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I think you crept away from your push on me because nobody else bit and you didn't want to be the star of the show. Care to change my mind?
ToonyMan is my strongest townread right now. I've read the arguments against him and I still don't know what other people are seeing in him that I'm not.I think Caz is probably genuinely paranoid of me.
I think Caz is right in her assessment.I have no idea why you think this unless it's not your genuine feelings.
Toony suggesting sofanthiel has been heavily engaged with the game makes… very little sense to me, so I’m alright leaving my vote there for the time being.
I’m not sure why you think sofanthiel and Snowkiller get a pass while crystallizedmire doesn’t?I rate sofanthiel the highest here. I like them joining Snowkiller's "me no lynch" and especially them saying they're pretty sure they're Elephant's partner. Like who says that? They've done this while also engaging with the game heavily. If it's an act they're fooling me.
