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@Shadowdump:

Webadict: Your L-1 vote on juicebox enabled the hammer. I do not believe for one moment you would be so irresponsible as to do such a thing and maintain said vote after the danger was pointed out. The only suitable explanation for you is that you are working against town.

Why are you voting Webadict...?

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@Hector:

One thing that crossed my mind yesterday was that one of them was lying about being masons after I saw Vector could see if anyone had a quicktopic from one of their actions. Perhaps Toony or Luckyowl had a similar ability and decided to risk claiming to head that off?

We absolutely have a quicktopic together. That can't be pretended.

Just us two.

Funny. I can also confirm that Shadowdump and myself didn't do the scumkill.

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@NQT:

Toony, if I could have voted Juice sooner I would have done, they were the best pick and so that's why I picked them as soon as I could get to the thread to post on d2.

Uh huh...

I'm half expecting Superdorf not to disappear when d4 rolls around, but I think we can afford to give him benefit of the doubt for today.

Fair enough.

Also, please confirm my Hotdogs, people.

I got two in cardboard cartons this time. So three total?

I think Hector13 and either NQT/Secretdorf are scum.

@Hector:
Why didn't you want to hammer Juicebox? Secretdorf inspected them and they were super scummy.

@NQT:
You were the third vote on both lynches, can you explain that? Isn't that the statistically scummy bandwagon position?

@Secretdorf:
Claim everything, just like on Day 2.

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Given I was pushing him when scum decided to end it and deny me any investigation last night, removing them makes sense. Also, removing Toaster prevents them from saying what happened to them Night 1, denying the info that would intensify the heat on the bread that is full of secretdorf.

Shadowdump can tell us if Toaster used their mason chat.

I don't have incriminating evidence Luckyowl, they were clean. Did you get anything?

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Why did you guys put obvscum at L-1 so they could quickhammer 8 hours into Day start?

I've always wondered what would happen if you hammer voted somebody and then unvoted in the same post. Does the hammer happen?

@Luckyowl:

Because we're not confirmed and I need to know if I can really trust TM. I can't let my guard down even for a second. I really want to believe he is town. I really do. But this is a game of deception so you just can't trust everything that you see.

I think we're unconfirmed because our roles are powerful. It also makes me fairly convinced we're dealing with a mafia team and SK.

My concern with TM is him confirming our role. Personally I would have wanted him to say nothing about it, but when he nudged me that he wanted to reveal our role I was honestly forced. If ignored it. Then someone was going to bring it up, if I said, no. Then everyone would start questioning me about why not. Our role is pretty vital and I was hoping he didn't revealed too much about it. What I am more worried though. Is now, I'm a possible target for a mafia kill on n1. Since everyone know I am working with TM. I wanted to reveal my role on day 2 with some evidence on hand. Now, we're opened and exposed to a possible n1 kill. If TM is town. They will more likely go after him since he can possibly be a threat to the scum team. If TM is scum, then he is trying to make himself look like town by claiming our role.

Lucky, if I die tonight then you can still spill out all of your info tomorrow. If you die tonight and flip town I'll put out everything you said. I don't think it's likely we'll both die tonight because the mafia and possible SK would need to coordinate, which they can't do. We even have Shadow and Toaster and probably Secretdorf to back us up.

Everyone: If you hammer Caz before they speak. You'll be seeing me soon.

Y-yeah! Me and Lucky are going to make our targets obvious and in public!

@Caz:

ToonyMan

Quote from: ToonyMan on January 25, 2021, 01:05:27 pm

Yeah I agree with this. It also really bothers me that Caz thought Web and Vector "might be masons"?
This comment really comes off odd to me, Caz?

What bothers you about it? Is it the totally spooky way that everyone started claiming masons afterwards?

Yes.

Quote from: TricMagic on January 25, 2021, 09:16:00 am

At least it isn't as bad as BYOR was recently. Also, that type of explosion I see and just ignore as best I can. It doesn't really do anything productive for others.

It's a lot of crap. It puts people off playing the game, and is just a cheap emotional tactic (read: scummy as all hell). I have no idea why people in this game think that it's okay. Couple that with the laziness of wanting to policy lynch LuckyOwl (I almost typed IronyOwl here, sheesh. Whatever happened to them?) and the whole thing about wanting to wait for Vector (excuse to do nothing, then an excuse to have a pointless argument when they arrived), oof, why are you NOT voting webadict?

Yes, yes, he's a 'fruit vendor'. You ever hear of the fucking witch in storybooks giving out poisoned apples? No?

Do we need to watch out for poison in this game as well?

Pretending that roles conflate with alignment, why?
Both masons and 'fruit vendor' (now that I looked it up, appears to be very cute) aren't restricted to town alignment.
You wanting everyone to reveal their role day 1 is hilariously scummy and if the rest of the town can't see it, that's their loss.

I don't think you want to claim because you know it will incriminate you as scum.

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@Webadict:

Sorry for the outburst before. You're right, it was out of line. I got irrationally angry because I saw what was probably a Town player being very scummy and unnecessarily combative, and that's my thing, and I couldn't really begin to explain where and how what they were doing was wrong, because they were also Town, but also only voting for Town. That's a dumb reason to get angry, but they were on the path to losing and leading everyone down it, and I probably should've explained that better than I did.

Good.

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As a forewarning:
This day ends really late for me (like 3am) and I have work tomorrow so I'm not going to be up for the deadline.

Quote from: ToonyMan on January 25, 2021, 01:05:27 pm

@NQT & Caz:

Quote from: notquitethere on January 25, 2021, 11:41:26 am

There's a majority on webadict and the rest just kind of smeared out across the board. Easy lynch = town lynch. We saw this in the last BYOR15 with the D1 easy Toony lynch for which I tried to build a counterwagon. I failed then, but maybe I'll succeed this time. Let's counterwagon... Caz
Why Caz? What's the word for when a player posts a lot but doesn't really say anything most of the time? Because that's Caz.

Yeah I agree with this. It also really bothers me that Caz thought Web and Vector "might be masons"?
This comment really comes off odd to me, Caz?

Wait... Is the whole town masons of various kinds?

I wouldn't put it past the mod FoU. They stuck me with Luckyowl for crying out loud.

Any other 2-player groups want to come out?