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So to all, but especially the Lurkers, what do you think of this rapid fire posting style? Is it scummy, towny, or something else?

You could just make one post over the course of 10 minutes instead...

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Current reads:

Most Town
ToonyMan - me
Luckyowl - this is tentative, if I'm dead before Day 2 starts then this read is void
TricMagic - don't think they're mafia fake-claiming, possibility of being third-party though
Shadowdump - active, seems genuine
Caz - similar to Shadowdump
Secretdorf - newb?
Vector - was quiet, but their posting streak looked alright
NQT - quiet, but I thought this was scummy in BYOR15 and was wrong
Toaster - quiet, but same as NQT
Juicebox - not posting
Hector - bizarre anti-town behavior until "suddenly" became enlightened, or mafia chat told them to stop fucking around
Webadict - lazy, chaotic, weird interactions with Hector
Most Scum

PPE:
I see that Hector and Webadict have made read lists as well. I'll give them a look.

*taps chest repeatedly*

Hmmmmm...

@Webadict:

Quote from: ToonyMan on January 23, 2021, 09:11:32 pm

I do think Web is bullying the newbies Luckyowl and Secretdorf unfairly and drawing the ire of Hector and SHADOWdump unproductively, but there's certain players I would like to hear from, such as Vector.

Quote from: ToonyMan on January 23, 2021, 09:11:32 pm

I do think Web is bullying the newbies

What. Do you have a definition for bullying that doesn't exist in my Merriam-Webster? Explain to me how I am being anything but fair to them, please.

Luckyowl and Secretdorf are the two least experienced players here. You're implicating them together. Do you really believe they're on a mafia team together or are you just going for easy pickings?

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@Vector:

Quote from: ToonyMan on January 23, 2021, 02:59:45 am

Vector, you have a day ability that is a 50% inspect or 50% kill, do you fire it on Day 1? Which player?

I think I would wait for late D1, or early D2 so that if I accidentally hit town with a kill it will provide some data on interactions/etc., but if I get an inspect + confirmed townie, there's some buffer to manage the fallout before LYLO.
(Obviously it's better to inspect or kill scum, but I'm thinking about worst case scenarios). As for the person . . . probably Toaster. Useful as a CT and hard for me to read.

Fair enough.

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@Juicebox:
Gonna vote somebody?

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PPE:
@Luckyowl:

1.I'm not really suspicious of Webadict because he guess 3 mafia. As He pointed it out he post that before the game start and I well, didn't really notice that. So points to him on that. But what I do have a problem is his case against me was pretty weak and he is able to guess that there is 3 mafia than it shouldn't be hard for him to look and see why I brought up the possible number of mafia in the game. Instead he tried to make me scummy and at the same time bully SD. Who was the one to ask, "How many mafia are there in this game." But yes, I want to hear from Vector. Wubba Dubba is not being helpful at all...in VM 12.5 and P25. He's always leading the town and trying to scum hunt...however, in VM 13 and in this one. Webadict is seating back too much. So if Vector can somehow confirm Web as town. Then at least my paranoia can be at ease.

How can Vector do this?

2. er, right, mafia is word sensitive. I'll correct it. "I'm 100% sure, that SD might be town" there not much to expand on it. Since I really don't know if he is. There's always a  possibility, but I think he's not worth the time just yet. My main focus is this buddying Web/Vector.

Okay.

ToonyMan: Who do you think might be the scum so far? other than Web. My second on my scumlist is probably TricMagic. Them not posting is bothersome.  They still constantly switch their vote around...but TricMagic was town in BYOR 15..so this might just be who they are.*sigh* Anyone who can act as perfect town, even as scum might be a pychopath to some degree.   

I can't explain it very well, but there's a very good reason I want to be sure you're not mafia and you should understand what I mean. I think you're probably wrong about TricMagic, but I agree that Webadict could be scum. I think the rest of the mafia are lurking super hard.

@NQT:

Toony

Quote from: ToonyMan on January 23, 2021, 02:59:45 am

NQT, what's the best way to attract the night kill of the mafia? Should you play more passively as town if you have a powerful role?

Mafia tend to kill players they don't think they can lynch or players they think will be a danger to them (doctors, vigs etc.), when they don't have any strong contenders like that, or they have good reason to think a doctor might protect their preferred target, they just go for low-info lynches and take out someone whose death doesn't help anyone. Playing too passively can put you in that latter camp. In a role-heavy game like this, it's best just play actively and spur other players to be active. Taking a backseat would be sacrificing the day game in the hope of ameliorating the worst of the night game, it's a losing strat. What do you reckon?

That's right. Town should be playing actively and encouraging people to engage, regardless of their ability.

@Luckyowl stuff:

Quote from: ToonyMan on January 22, 2021, 10:11:24 pm

Quote from: webadict on January 22, 2021, 09:52:33 pm

Psh, not if I lynch Luckyowl first.

I'm going to flip a coin when Day 1 starts.
If it comes up heads: I'm going to vote Luckyowl.
If it comes up tails: I'm going to vote Luckyowl.
I hope you have more coins than I do, Lucky.

Uh. I think I left those coins back at the car. Hold on I'll go get them.

Just make it quick, partner. *winks at Luckyowl*

Everyone: Do you think I'll still play like this if I were scum?

I don't know, tell me with your actions.

Quote from: Caz on January 23, 2021, 09:17:36 am

Quote from: Luckyowl on January 23, 2021, 09:16:09 am

4 votes on me. Wow. Just 3 more, and I'm a goner. So I'll ask this.
Everyone: Do you think I'll still play like this if I were svum?

Are you going to actually do any scumhunting though? I wasn't going to vote you yet but I might if you aren't going to play.

But I am scum hunting. It's just backwards.

Not this again...

Quote from: hector13 on January 23, 2021, 09:19:44 am

Now I look dumb ‘cause I don’t know what CC means.
PPE: what in the nine circles is backwards scumhunting?

It works in mysterious ways. [No coin flip included(probably a little coin flips)]

It's Luckyowl's genius plan of having every mafia player vote them. 100% fool proof.

So we don't have their number. We have 12 players. Do you think it's safe to assume there's 4 scum? Could there possibly 2 for extra paranoia?

I doubt there's only 2 mafia.

Quote from: Caz on January 23, 2021, 10:06:50 am

Weird, my scumchat only has 2 participants.

I'm gonna do a coin flip to see if I should vote you or not.  . (Ah shit, falling back to bad habits. Again.)

So...vote somebody. Stop falling back to the coin. I want to see you pressuring some scum.

*places fingers on temple*

What was that? Vote Luckyowl? Untrustworthy? Got it.

Luckyowl, convince me you won't use arbitrary logic as a reasoning or excuse and maybe I won't vote you on Day 1.

ShadowDUMP, what kind of role do you think you added to the mix with your last minute jump in? What alignment?

NQT, what's the best way to be accidently nightkilled due to mod error to attract the night kill of the mafia? Should you play more passively as town if you have a powerful role?

Vector, you have a day ability that is a 50% inspect or 50% kill, do you fire it on Day 1? Which player?

Toaster, show me a picture of your face the exact moment you read your role-PM. If that isn't possible, how would you describe your facial muscles? Tense? Relaxed? Up? Down? Have you been visiting your doctor about it?

hector9, are you replacing out?

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ToonyMan: Do you think I should gamble my chances for another self-vote?

Please don't.

Everyone: So how many of you want to lynch me?

*raises hand*

Well. I guess I'm gonna get lynch on day 1. It's official.

Yep. You will with that attitude.

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PPE:

And no, I will not be hopping on a memewagon against Luckyowl right off the bat. Don't want to run the risk of him actually getting hammered.(As funny as that would be.)

Why? Because he's your buddy?

Hey, Toony, what are you getting your degree in?

Electrical Engineering. My undergraduate degree was in EE and also in graduate school I'm doing EE with a focus in electronics and power systems. My new job is power related. No it's not at a power plant, but you could say it's my fault if you lose power in New England.

my homie ToonyMan here complains about not being the protagonist and here he is maining the player 2 character

I've brought this on myself haven't I?

I can't resist though, I've always liked playing as Luigi.

I suppose I want to share this since I've been here for a little bit and have no desire to post anywhere but the Mafia subboard. I also have zero social media presence and much prefer smaller communities such as niche game forums.

My last mafia game before coming back recently was Meph's THE SYSTEM semi-bastard in Fall 2015. After dying in that game I just completely stopped posted in the Mafia subboard. I think there's two main reasons:

1. I was currently finishing my undergraduate studies and was pretty busy.
2. I had been playing mafia actively here since Summer 2009 (fun fact: Paranormal 6 was the first game of mafia I was ever in that finished), that's over 6 years and probably close to 100 games.

Afterwards I graduated in 2016 and promptly went into graduate school because I had nothing better to do. I'm still technically in graduate school until I decide to leave, but it's not really costing me anything and I'm in a good position at this point.

While not playing mafia I started entering local tournaments in my area for fun and to have something to do socially during the week.

Mainly I played Project M, but I also entered 64 and random stuff.

I won a Windjammers tournament in 2016 which is probably the most popular video I'll ever be in.
And I was still playing Smash Bros until literally everything got cancelled in 2020. There was some netplay stuff going on but I'm not really interested in just playing someone through a screen.

I'm strongly tempted to ask Toady to change my handle to just "Toony" but I don't know. I don't think it'd confuse anyone...

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Friendly reminder that mafia is an evil, evil game.

It sure is. I also think mafia helped me through high school.

It really comes down to a simple fact, Luckyowl: What's the point of convincing you to do anything if you won't take ownership over a decision?
Win or lose by your own merits. Not because of a coinflip. It makes playing with you unfun. So, what's the point if you aren't responsible for winning or losing?

Here's my pseudo-analysis:

Luckyowl is genuinely voting who he thinks is scum, but then claiming it was a coinflip after for some reason.

All three lylos he's always voted who he said was more scummy beforehand.