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Quote from: ToonyMan on January 15, 2021, 05:12:06 pm

We can't prove we're town at this point. Luckyowl is confirmed town. One of us is mafia. We can't prove either of us are town at this point. Luckyowl has to believe one of us.

That's actually not true. Luckyowl can vote you and I can prove myself by not hammering. It involves the same amount of trust you put in Luckyowl, doesn't it? Now, the problem is that by doing that, they have to trust me, which you can't have because it would definitively show you're Mafia.

ToonyMan is afraid of a lynch because I unvoted them. It is a nonsensical action because they realize that that is, indeed, another way to prove you're not scum. It's not a scumtell, but it does rely on the person deciding the vote to essentially believe I'm Town because I could hammer it. It is a nulltell, at best, and a Towntell for me, especially in this case specifically because it could be construed as potentially scum friendly, or buddying, or something. It doesn't really matter what ToonyMan thinks it is, because they are wrong, and I've shown that. They don't plan on making any more arguments, but I do because I'm Town, and also because I literally don't believe in your ability to rationally look at the evidence and make a sound decision without me shoving you into it.

Quote from: ToonyMan on January 15, 2021, 06:07:15 pm

Luckyowl, you're looking for logical reasons that make somebody more scummy or town. I've completely exhausted every case up until confirming you as town. I don't think I can add more besides humoring Webadict. I've already countered everything he could think of (plus more) and he's just going to go on and on and on until you nod your head and go "yeah you're totally right Scumadict!!" You need to vote one of us, you've made good cases for both of us, so figure out which one is more scummy. Behavioral stuff like making jokes or acting like an insane lunatic is complete emotional appeal and doesn't prove anything.

I do agree with you, all points were already made and counter long before...the webadict's show. So, you can ignore Web if you want. I'll come up with a vote tomorrow.

Also, I'm not going crazy. I'm having fun watching you be unable to counter what I brought up about you. You just stopped trying, and it's hilarious watching you not even try anymore because you don't really care who you lynch.

Seriously, you have all the time in the world to prove I'm scum and counter my points. I don't know why you're afraid of Luckyowl trying to quickhammer you. I'm not even voting you, so it can't happen, can it?

ToonyMan: You're sort of falling back to your previous play. You're becoming to impatient. When we have until the 18 for day 3 to come to end.

Quote from: ToonyMan on January 15, 2021, 05:12:06 pm

We can't prove we're town at this point. Luckyowl is confirmed town. One of us is mafia. We can't prove either of us are town at this point. Luckyowl has to believe one of us.

That's actually not true. Luckyowl can vote you and I can prove myself by not hammering. It involves the same amount of trust you put in Luckyowl, doesn't it? Now, the problem is that by doing that, they have to trust me, which you can't have because it would definitively show you're Mafia.