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Of course I'm baiting Luckyowl. If they want definitive proof I'm Town, that's the only way they're going to get it. And I can literally prove myself by doing that. And it's not like you can snipe that away from me, so it's a win-win.Webadict will immediately hammer someone that isn't himself because he is mafia.
But, it's really easy to say someone's Town or Mafia when you're Mafia, so I guess forgiving Luckyowl's sins must've been pretty easy. I mean, all those sins. Like self-voting. And Caz hammering. God, it just makes you feel really forgiving, doesn't it?It wasn't easy. I was afraid Luckyowl was going to hammer right after I voted you, the next 5 minutes were incredibly tense for me.
Why would I go to 100%? I even said in this game that if I was town in Vengeful 12.5 I would have put Luckyowl at 90% town.The self-vote wasn't game breaking like asking the mod how the mafia works, but it's still a town read. That's why I bumped them up to around 70-75% on Day 1.You could've gone to 100%. That's what I did, and we know we can use Towntells from other players to prove other people.
4. Cool, what justification did they use that satisfied you?I wasn't that satisfied with Luckyowl's response, but I had to weigh whether they did it because they were town or mafia. Everything else you've done is still way more incriminating.
5. That's a really neat justification, but it doesn't fit the timeline. Would you like to try again?How can I know? I don't have access to Mafia Chat like you.
6. Oh, wow, you never voted Luckyowl. How convenient!Crazy, isn't it?
9. Why's that? They never did anything that pointed towards them being Town. Usually they say something that literally clears them. This time they didn't. I see no fault in that for anyone but Luckyowl, for not blindly doing the thing that they do.They self-voted, just like last time. You know this.
Basically, Luckyowl, there's literally only one way to prove I'm Town, and that's if I unvote and you vote ToonyMan and I don't hammer. Unfortunately, that involves you trusting me, which I don't expect, but unvoting ToonyMan also doesn't matter because I can vote them whenever I want.Don't fall for this. He's baiting you.
ToonyMan, by that admission, you say there aren't scumtells you can use and that you relied essentially on gut feeling to back up a random coinflip. All of your evidence is then post-defined as scummy by that virtue. You would be using all of the same things Lucky said as evidence that they're scum.This is bullshit. I've made multiple reasonings why I believed Luckyowl was likely town and Webadict was likely mafia. I needed to figure out who the mafia was after Caz flipped town. I haven't distorted anything I've said, meanwhile you've changed your entire game plan because you have to, as mafia.
The point is though that ToonyMan is saying there is no coordination between TricMagic and I, but that doesn't defend their coordination. It's deflecting from their scummy attitude.You're changing the narrative of what happened for your own benefit. First it's "ToonyMan and TricMagic can't be working together!" now it's "this was all coordinated!!".
There is clear coordination between the two of them on your lynchNope, there isn't.
and a hypocritical turn on you during Caz's lynch.Because I justifiably asked Luckyowl why he would hammer Caz so quickly, before Caz could even respond to my question?
No. You have no reason to help Luckyowl in this game as mafia because this is not a newbie game.Ah, so you can only use other people's scumtells and none from a game where I am actually scum? Seems like you could be doing that, no?With that out of the way. Webadict, got any criticism? Or do you want me to just end this?This isn't a newbie game. He's not going to give up until you hammer him. I would say it's rude to hit someone while they're down, but...he's scum so.
I would make a joke, but I feel like you would take me seriously so I won't.Is it hard for you to not be a dark Chancellor whispering in my ears...seriously is stuff like this that makes me turn my vote unto you.With that out of the way. Webadict, got any criticism? Or do you want me to just end this?This isn't a newbie game. He's not going to give up until you hammer him. I would say it's rude to hit someone while they're down, but...he's scum so.
With that out of the way. Webadict, got any criticism? Or do you want me to just end this?This isn't a newbie game. He's not going to give up until you hammer him. I would say it's rude to hit someone while they're down, but...he's scum so.
You spent your time buddying me. I was giving Luckyowl advice, you know I'm town.If I'm mafia, why did I vote you and not Luckyowl? You were 95% sure he was mafia, that would be an easy win.Because you had spent your time buddying Luckyowl. It's why I pushed for your certainty on Lucky. It would have been too drastic and left whiplash scars a mile long. If anything, this was the easier option for you.
@Luckyowl: Uh, excuse me, what? The proof I am Townie is in that fucking post. If I was working with TricMagic, I would have kept my vote there. Simple as that. Instead, I unvoted to see who would vote you and why, and didn't come back until 6:30. You know why I know that? Because I saw that Tric and Toony were both active when I rechecked the forums. They were the only one who could've worked together when Caz flipped Town.You unvoted so that any one of us could join the Luckyowl self-vote wagon. Otherwise the voters would have been Luckyowl, Webadict, and TricMagic on...Luckyowl. He would have a 100% chance of hitting mafia.
ToonyMan, being wrong about you isn't a votable offense because you're Mafia. It is a straight line from poi t A to point B.If I'm mafia, why did I vote you and not Luckyowl? You were 95% sure he was mafia, that would be an easy win.
It was a rash decision because they needed to convince one of us to vote the other.You are the one that wanted one of us to vote the other.
The problem here is that I'm still pretty convinced ToonyMan is Obvtown.Claiming I'm town.
@Luckyowl: Yes, but what's your feeling on ToonyMan?Pitting Luckyowl against me.
@Luckyowl: Why are you only going after ToonyMan and not me? If anyone's trying to distance themselves, it feels like it's you, and it's why I still don't trust you.Suspicion to make me vote Luckyowl.
SINCE TOONYMAN AND TRICMAGIC AREN'T WORKING TOGETHER, THAT'S HOW YOU GET TWO. I DON'T KNOW WHICH MATH YOU FAILED, BUT PLEASE RETAKE IT.Claiming I'm town.
Placing suspicion on Luckyowl.UnvoteThis vote right here is why I think it's Luckyowl. He literally removes it right after TricMagic throws his vote on him.
Claiming Luckyowl is 95% mafia. He's trying to convince me to vote Luckyowl.So the mafia bussed huh. If so, I think Webadict is flagbearer, but I want to see what he got to say. I'm still inclined to think it's ToonyMan.He literally knows the term for what just occurred, ToonyMan, and you're still defending them? That plus the waffling, and I'm at 95% sure it's Luckyowl.
Are we really going to lose because you can't identify Scumowl?Pitting me against Luckyowl.
Luckyowl, why do you think it's ToonyMan instead of me?Pitting Luckyowl against me.
I think it's possible that Webadict might be the FB. I theorize Webadict's possible plan that arose from my day 1 self-claiming.I agree.
1. Lynch me, vengekill him. I flip town he flip FB. But because the FB was VK instead of being lynch. The game proceed into day 2. Where Caz, TricMagic, and ToonyMan would be left. In other words. Taking out me, the always confirm town would increase mafia win rate. Vking the FB would also prevent a day 1 town victory. The scumteam in this set up would most likely see me as a threat. My always confirmed town turn the town victory into a 50/50 chance instead of a 66%. Webadict of course didn't plan me to be here, nor did he planned himself to be here. But even so, I would like Webadict in take. Before I do anything.
