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@Max:
Fine. I understand the logic.

@Hector:
I'd rather have sofanthiel and Snowkiller over Caz, because I can be more confident they'd at least post during lylo, but I'm not voting Caz over a reason like that. I don't see you highlighting Caz the same way as sofan/Snow/Crystal either.

Quote from: hector13 on August 17, 2023, 09:24:38 pm

My vote is on sofanthiel/Snowkiller because they are stubbornly refusing to participate, though I accept they’re new and are uncertain. I don’t necessarily suspect them, but I want them to push people, even if it’s ineffectually.

Coincidentally, that’s why I moved away from Crystallizedmire.

Like… I’ve asked the same question four or five different times and they keep making excuses and talking about statistics and various things like that.

Would you want either (or both!) of them at M/LYLO, Toony?

It doesn't matter whether I want them at lylo.

What matters is whether they're mafia or not. Is there some other reason I'm not thinking of?

To answer your question: no. I could maybe go for Maximum Spin, since he seems to be memeing (thus off-tracking the game, which would result in more town hold-ups, and longer mafia lifespan). That's not enough to sentence anyone, of course, but I do believe I have my first suspicious gaze to cast at another player. Well done, Mr. Spin. Well done.

I'm surprised Max is memeing to be honest.

Quote from: ToonyMan on August 17, 2023, 09:02:02 pm

Quote from: Elephant Parade on August 17, 2023, 08:59:32 pm

That's interesting, since Hector is low on my suspect list (though their shift into BM IC Mode bumped them up a bit). Care to explain your reasoning? I assume the answer is no or you already would have, but I'm asking anyway.

I don't have any strong reasoning, unless Max has a better one.

I'm not sure how you got from "one of these two people is mafia" to "I don't have any strong reasoning" in the span of two posts, but OK. Give me your weak reasoning.

I think suspecting Tric is incorrect.

I think Hector suspecting sofanthiel is incorrect.

They could be (possibly) wrong on purpose because they're mafia.

I find it interesting that neither you or Hector suspect each other that much.

Eh, I want more from sofanthiel and Snowkiller. They’ve got a bit under 24 hours to pick someone to eliminate, I will not accept no lynch as an answer.

I don't really think it's either.

Currently I am happy with Hector or Elephant Parade's demise since one of them is mafia.

See, even Hector would rather die than nobody!

I think Elephant Parade has provided a lot in case of their death as well.

By engaging with the game then even in your death you can be helpful to town.

Unless of course...you're mafia and your death has a much greater weight to your team, besides the fact your actions could be revealing under this new light.

Someone who has played with Hector before: Is he usually in support of day 1 lynching?

There we go.

Yes. D1 lynching is very common.

It does miss scum a majority of the time, but not always.

Also Toony broh, you know that someone’s status as a newbie has nothing to do with their alignment. If you’re liking EP and Snowkiller, who are you not liking?

Being a newbie, no. But I find new players say things that are awfully revealing~

Quote from: hector13 on August 16, 2023, 02:01:22 pm

TricMagic: HATS!?

"Pointy hats." They nod with agreement.

Hmmm, Tric saying something subtly revealing about his role? Probably a good sign he's town?

@Caz:
So much spunk. So much energy.

How do you feel about Max?

Quote from: Snowkiller on August 16, 2023, 03:04:30 pm

I'm new to this game genre but I don't think I "look" for anything in D1, unless the person slips up and says something sus. It's the first day. I don't know enough about the game in general nor the people in this particular instance to say "yay" or "nay" on lynching. That's why I usually go for no lynch in the critically few mafia games I've been in.

I agree with that.  Lynching on the first day is just a coin-flip, unless someone outright admits to being a mafioso.  Anyone?

This strikes me as a pretty bold thing for sofanthiel to say if they're newb!mafia as opposed to newb!town.

I think it's more likely sofanthiel is town here.

What makes you so sure EP is on your team?

Isn't it odd sofanthiel is "pretty sure" Elephant Parade is town alongside them?

Is this something softanthiel would say as mafia? As a new player? Maybe, but I'm leaning no for now.

Tric, how do you like your role? I don't want to hear any details, I know you want to save those for a dramatic reveal, I just want to know if you like it.

His first post was already revealing though.

@Max and Hector:
I don't really trust either of you. I think it's totally possible you would do this recent banter just now as both mafia.

Elephant Parade and Caz seem to be trying. I'm more on the fence with them because I can see them faking this.

I can't tell if Caz is serious about ending RVS to vote me. If they're serious I think they're absolutely town.

Snowkiller and sofanthiel want to no-lynch, on D1, in a 9 player game. I think they're both town.

I'm not sure about Crystalizedmire as the last newb. They look newb, but I don't have a great sense so far.

Tric popped in and left. I think I agree a little with Max here, what's up Tric?

Shit I forgot to put green in Max's name.

Uuuh...

I've played with Max, Hector, and Tric recently.

I've played with Caz somewhat recently.

I've played with Elephant Parade over a decade ago.

I've never played with sofanthiel, Snowkiller, or Crystalizedmire.

ToonyMan: at what point do you expect to have the game solved?

Right now.

Or probably Day 2.

What I can say now: This game probably has two mafia. This is the assumption I'm going with.

Cute but how is it actually helpful?? You know better Toony.

It's not helpful, at all.

I just wanted

to do it.

I think we've left RVS. Toony's post has rubbed me the wrong way.

Woah woah woah, I just got here.

Is Max more or less suspicious for townreading me over it?

Quote from: Maximum Spin on August 16, 2023, 02:49:03 pm

ToonyMan flatters me, therefore ToonyMan is town.

Bingo. Toony asks no questions but seeks to amuse, to distract.

I don't understand the flow of logic here.

But fine.

I'll be useful.

I'm a mill---coughcough

I'm a miilllle-----uuuughhhhh

I can't do it! I cannot lie! My alignment shines brighter than the wettest evergreens! To lie would only create confusion, and confusion leads to hatred and sadness. I cannot bluff being a kook this game. Mafia are going to have to kill me I guess since I don't know how they'll win otherwise.

Quote from: hector13 on August 16, 2023, 02:01:22 pm

Snowkiller: what do you look for in a D1 elimination?

I'm new to this game genre but I don't think I "look" for anything in D1, unless the person slips up and says something sus. It's the first day. I don't know enough about the game in general nor the people in this particular instance to say "yay" or "nay" on lynching. That's why I usually go for no lynch in the critically few mafia games I've been in.

Looks newbie enough to me.