@NJW2000:Why is the possibility that Heydude is scum and worried that a townie sent the contract (forcing him to reveal it immediately) so hard to grasp?
Sure, it's possible. My stance is that I don't think that's true. I understand your argument towards me.
Do you know he's town? Did you send the contract yourself, and thus find it difficult to envision someone calling him out for holding on to the information?
No it's not 100%, but I'm still siding with the feeling he's not mafia. I'm generally going to be suspicious of most people, but having some anti-mafia feels isn't the end of the world. No I didn't send the contract. Whoever did this clearly doesn't want to claim or they would have.
NJW2000 there's some things I'd like to know what you think, what are your feelings towards
dolores? Towards
Vector? Towards
Leafsnail? I'm pretty curious what you think of them.
@4maskwolf:Leafsnail feels like a combination between old-school "tunnel at cases from untouched angles" Leafsnail with Para 25 "low effort" Leafsnail. Don't have enough experience with him to know what exactly that means. Moving him down to my neutral pile for now.
It's either he's genuinely busy or he's quiet because he's scum. I'm thinking the latter.
@FallacyofUrist:ToonyMan: Do you have anything solid on the recent proceedings to offer currently?
Yep, I'd like to make a reads list of everyone before the day ends. Should be at the bottom of this post once I get down there.
I feel like notquitethere, dolores, heydude, and Vector have been working solidly in the town's interests, though of course I'll reevaluate this as the game goes on.
While NQT's vote analysis is helpful for town, it's a null read for him I feel.
@Tricmagic:I looked at those but none of those strike me as unfriendly to the scum team, which is what TricMagic claimed.
It wasn't? Kinda felt like it with the votes coming in and pressure being applied.
Also, what did I claim? Friendliness? No Bonk negates kills made by the wearer, so it's an option to buy it and give it to another?
Indeed. If you had picked No Bonk instead then we could have all openly bought a badge and stuck it onto someone else in a big loop chain. Sure it probably would have ran into problems because of shenanigans, but it could potentially stop kills from going off at night.
You ignored my question where I asked you about this.
@Leafsnail:Leafsnail: Do you have anything on anyone other than Tric? I saw you mention Vector, but you've not done a damn thing to develop that. Why?
Think I'm going to +1 Toaster here. Leafsnail you haven't interacted with anyone besides TricMagic and Vector (barely). Why?
I'm going to bold people I've interacted with more, feel free to point out anything.
Reads, from most town to most scum:ToonyMan, I'm town
gap
Heydude - contract logic, is also giving huge reads on everyone which I like
Luckyowl - newb
NJW2000 - I think we're getting some good insight out of them...hopefully
Nirur Torir - seems okay?
Vector - feel like they're buddying me,
does throw shade on me, but seems calculated
dolores - typing a lot of words, don't know, does claim a secondary wincon
NQT - pretty quiet, he'd do a vote analysis regardless, scum lean
Toaster - same boat as Vector, I think they're more suspicious but I agree with their IcyTea argument
4maskwolf - seems like they're trying? scum lean
Juicebox - barely know they exist, scum lean
IcyTea - dumbly voted themselves, contract logic makes me more suspicious of them then Heydude, feel like they're lying a lot
UristofFallacy - playing bad should know better?
Jim Groovester - lazy lazy lazy
Leafsnail - too quiet, hiding something?
TricMagic - has no interest in the town,
defeatist logic that everyone voting them is scum, don't do this
PPE:
Looks like we're getting reads from other players and Juicebox is here, nice.
@Juicebox:Toonyman, Given that a 4 person mafia team has been confirmed, who are your other suspects for the mafia team? Who's your strongest townread and why? Do you consider IcyTea's slip to be an actual slip, or do you think they were just fishing for reactions?
Sure. If I had to pick the 4 person mafia team right now it'd be one of two sets:
The obvious team:
Leafsnail, Jim Groovester, UristofFallacy, IcyTea
The wildcard team:
Leafsnail, IcyTea, Vector or dolores, Toaster or Vector
Do you consider IcyTea's slip to be an actual slip, or do you think they were just fishing for reactions?
I did laugh at him to get more of a response, but I'm not entirely sure it's a slip. I would be voting him over TricMagic if I was that confident.