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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 3 - Game over! 4 Exterminators Escaped!
« on: December 23, 2020, 07:57:12 pm »
A shame, all this potentially unused KOR that wouldn't be going to a bid...*smirks wildly*.

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Mafia / Re: BYOR 15: Baking - Eleventh Batch... Who's NOBODY?
« on: December 22, 2020, 09:59:32 pm »
Who's Kevin?

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NOBODY? NOBODY? Who the fudge is NOBODY?
Uh, nobody, it's not a big deal. Don't worry about it.
Whatever happened to batch number 7?
That's me. The scum team will be juicebox, dolores, and NJW2000.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 3 - Game over! 4 Exterminators Escaped!
« on: December 22, 2020, 09:00:08 am »
Nice summary Heydude. I'm sure Jim will post the rest when he has time. Webadict is setting up BYOR15 so I don't know if he will.

If you can't tell, I had a lot of fun. You basically made a playable Danganrompa. We had clever scheming, people trying to escape, people trying to kill, and plenty of surprise twists. It was great :D
Upupupu.

For Meph
Building off of that first question, how did you expect this to play out? Did you expect us to escape together? Did you expect us to play to the last man? Which people did you think were most likely to win? Were you expecting us to annihilate each other and leave no victor behind?
I'll put the Bastard Paranormal up into signups today and let it run through the weekend and hopefully get started by Monday.
It's not a long game if things go as I expect they will. But I think people will have a ton of fun with it.
You be the judge.

This is my first time surviving to the end of a mafia game, and I'm curious to hear what you guys thought of me as a player?
Wow really? Congratulations! I've never played with you before so starting in a SK bastard was spooky.

You sure killed a lot of people though. When IcyTea came up dead too I was 50/50 on you working with Jim immediately. Funny enough your cooperation would come right afterwards.

One thing that became clear to me while looking back through the posts is that I was a massive hypocrite. Killing LuckyOwl and then telling everyone to stop doing wanton murder was comedy gold. In spite of that, I genuinely did play an important role in keeping the peace. I wanted to represent that in the poster somehow.
*kills Tricmagic*
Don't kill me guys it was justified!
*kills IcyTea*
We need to work together!
*kills Luckyowl*
No more killing!

Highest kill count, and you survived! A murdering wordsmith at work.

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Mafia / Re: BYOR 15: Baking - Second Batch Got Burnt
« on: December 21, 2020, 01:09:14 am »
Absolutely, ToonyMan, because I joined this game solely to poke beehives from the sidelines.
Edit: And it's already working.
OMGUS and post editing, guess that answers that.

Clearly we have to lynch Webadict.  It's the only logical conclusion.
Don't unvote him now or you'll become the new Webadict.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 3 - Game over! 4 Exterminators Escaped!
« on: December 20, 2020, 11:46:53 pm »
you and Caz betrayed it.
Expecting to be trusted while you're spending your time trying to below everyone up is really funny.
Fair, but did that justify juicebox and 4maskwolf dying, too? I honestly believe that you both would have killed me regardless of my actions, specifically because those two died, both of whom had done nothing to warrant untrustworthiness, no?
You're right, it wasn't justified. I targeted Juicebox along with Webadict because it was a power play. On one hand if Jim was good I wanted him alive as an ally, on the other hand if he was bad I would be denying his bounty. What I got instead was somebody else actually being there, which made me incredibly suspicious of Jim because I wasn't in on the PMs. I was even thinking of continuing my cooperation with Caz and we could eliminate Jim and Heydude, the only others with KOR, and be unstoppable. Of course I would plasma bomb Caz when she went off to kill Jim or Heydude instead, and then split the blame between myself and the surviving party so that Luckyowl and Shakerag wouldn't know what to do. I felt like that made my chance of a solo victory at least 50%.

But then Heydude stopped playing the game, and Jim never was playing the game. This would make it impossible to convince Caz to kill them with me. This post and this post ultimately stopped me from killing ever again.



I have not.   
What do you think the over/under is on there being actual counter-forces among the players as opposed to people just getting itchy and trigger happy last night? 
I've been wondering the same thing and I'm leaning towards there being some sort of scum team in this game.
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me that there are all these people preaching for a nonviolent outcome to this game, but then being as maximally efficient and violent when given the chance.
Toony would be at the top of my list for certain.  Caz is a maybe.  You and heydude are very low.
So, I decided to go into the airlock after all. I'm pretty sure Toony is going to come after me for sure now, so it would be quite the troll if he got no-selled.
JIM SAVE ME
This is my favorite PM in the game.
It was me...I was the scum team...

People feared me the most when I had no intention of harming them.



From a pure Meta perspective, it was balanced. It's a bastard game! Anyone could win. All of you could win. All of you could lose!
True.

As far as contributions go towards winning, I mean, you can be a completely useless townie in a normal Mafia game and win just as much as the players who properly suss out the scum and win the game. Or be the one useless scum team member who manages to somehow live to the end and win with the rest of the scum team who actually played well. Mafia has never been about rewarding good play. You can play great and still lose. It's about teams winning. (Even, occasionally, a team of 1)
In this game, it just so happened that the teams had to be formed by the players instead of me at the start.
True.

The way I would look at it is that this game was 11 SKs, except the SKs could win by cooperating, or sneaking out, or dying early enough to change wincons.

I wish some players actually had different objectives though, anybody's motivation could completely change through the course of the game, because alignment doesn't matter. Without a discernible scum team I feel like most people will gravitate towards cooperation, as shown here. Nobody wants to challenge everyone else if there's another way out, and the outliers who do, die.

I'm sorely tempted to assassin bot Toony, because I feel like he's gonna screw things up.
I would not fault you in the slightest if you did that and I would also not want to convince you not to do that.
My bro Toony is going full Qanon now.
But you know, Shakerag, he's actually correct, in that I am a telepathic cult leader/hivemind/whatever whose role appears as Exterminator even on allegedly infallible Intel and I've converted more people than there are phases in the game and ToonyMan is the only person who can see through my LIES
Which is hilarious given your sigtext.
Lmao you're right.
This has been a plan nearly ten years in the making!
This would legit be a hilarious twist for BP 4.
oh no

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Mafia / Re: BYOR 15: Baking - Second Batch Got Burnt
« on: December 20, 2020, 11:04:44 pm »
Role-claiming already KitRougard?

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 3 - Game over! 4 Exterminators Escaped!
« on: December 20, 2020, 03:21:17 pm »
The reason being that each of us were trying to avoid the main conflict of everyone dying.
Let me express my frustrations.
Unlike you, I don't like to have blind faith in random people at the start of a game when some players could easily be an antagonistic faction. You know how absolutely terrible your pacifistic buddy pile would have been with 4mask and Jim if their were actual corporate exterminators?
Probably really bad! But, if you don't put trust in someone, is it really a Mafia game? Having my trust be rewarded or betrayed is part of the thrill! 4mask and Jim rewarded my trust and you and Caz betrayed it. I mean, that's just how my playstyle works. Find someone to trust and follow them. Even if it's off a bridge! And if that's what happens, then next time I just have to be better about not picking the bridge jumper!
If you really trusted everybody, why didn't you and 4mask contact me and Caz in private earlier? Instead of threatening everyone publicly at the point in the game where nobody has any KOR or security?

9/11 free wins with no opposing force besides player's IRL paranoia and a strike squad that rolls 1s? How can victory or failure in this game be truly placed? Somebody who does (or doesn't) contribute much, but guesses right? Somebody who does (or doesn't) contribute much, but is lucky? Somebody who does (or doesn't) contribute much, but dies early? Somebody who does (or doesn't) contribute much, but dies late?
Have you tried changing your wincon... Postgame?
What's the point if I already know the answer.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 3 - Game over! 4 Exterminators Escaped!
« on: December 20, 2020, 02:01:35 pm »
The reason being that each of us were trying to avoid the main conflict of everyone dying.
Let me express my frustrations.
Unlike you, I don't like to have blind faith in random people at the start of a game when some players could easily be an antagonistic faction. You know how absolutely terrible your pacifistic buddy pile would have been with 4mask and Jim if there were actual corporate exterminators? I was doing everything in my power to win this game, without blind luck. For the first couple phases I played how you should have, maybe it wasn't the right call and I definitely should have at least got an overview of the station, but what my paranoid did let me confirm is that nobody left alive was playing the game!
Throughout Truce Phase 2 I considered every possibility I could think of. On Hunt Phase 2 I found Jim's mind shield and nobody tried to night kill. Even though Caz didn't cough up anything, everybody else did which confirms at the very least she didn't night kill, although I was still wary of her trying to trick us with tech stuff which ends up making me lose?? Once I properly deduced I could trust everybody but Caz, I was fully onboard "freeform RPG" and tried everything I could with Meph.
I'm not very good at role-playing so I didn't have the INGENIOUS IDEA to change my wincon after dying, not that myself or Luckyowl would even have the chance to. Let me illustrate what Meph's thought process probably was for this:
Webadict "Damn I died after completely guessing what the game setup was at the start of the game, good thing I was actually right and can rub it in everyone's faces! Hey Meph can I change my wincon to something other than survival?"
Meph "....Sure."
Meph thinks how this could affect their game, coming up with the idea of attaching a ghost's wincon to one living player's survival to make it more balanced.
Meph "You can win if someone else living wins."
Webadict "Great, if Jim wins I win!"
He turns around and faces everybody who's dead.
Webadict "Everybody, side with Jim, because I said so."
Ghosts "Okay."
Meph "Wait, on second thought this might be brok-"
Webadict "NO TAKE BACKS"

9/11 free wins with no opposing force besides player's IRL paranoia and a strike squad that rolls 1s? How can victory or failure in this game be truly placed? Somebody who does (or doesn't) contribute much, but guesses right? Somebody who does (or doesn't) contribute much, but is lucky? Somebody who does (or doesn't) contribute much, but dies early? Somebody who does (or doesn't) contribute much, but dies late?



Well I'm always down for Bastard Paranormal 4.
...Nooooo......



What's the stuff in dead chat about the psychic presence in the mines?
No clue, never made it there. I sensed a psychic presence there as a ghost.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 3 - Game over! 4 Exterminators Escaped!
« on: December 20, 2020, 01:31:19 am »
Why is Jim always the protagonist. :(

You won Bastard Paranormal 2 too when most players didn't...like me...

EDIT:
Everything I did for myself ended up only benefiting you. Killing Webadict gave you ghost minions, killing Juicebox gave you 1220 KOR, antagonizing Caz made them target me even though you were their bounty, arrrrgh!!!

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 3 - Game over! 4 Exterminators Escaped!
« on: December 20, 2020, 01:14:50 am »
@Jim:
On your way you get a pair of messages on your communicator:
Bounty Kill confirmed on juicebox
1220 KOR has been transferred to your Account. Your balance is now 1320 KOR.
Wait, Jim you got paid 1220 KOR for Juicebox? What is this shit? Everyone else got 1000 KOR.



@Heydude:
Honestly, Toonyman saved us by shutting down the comms. By killing the original win condition and getting an army sent after us, we were forced to work together at all costs. A part of me really wanted to say fuck it after we lost yet another player to someone’s uncontrolled bloodlust.
Maybe.

I’m spite of my violence, I think I was one of the biggest reasons why were able to keep it together at the end of that day. Although even with my efforts, the only reason why we didn’t have a bloodbath was because Toonyman got caught buying the stun bomb and finally confessed. And his Anti-tech
My anti-tech field what?



@Roseheart:
For the final panel I will be accepting ALL SUGGESTIONS, this could get really weird! Spend your KOR(see totals, above) to influence how much impact your suggestion will have. Players may also merge their funds under the same suggestion. Otherwise, 1 suggestion per person.
My 500 KOR goes to the Exterminator having their Mind Shield on and an angry ghost yelling at them in the background.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 3 - Game over! 4 Exterminators Escaped!
« on: December 19, 2020, 11:21:20 pm »
All of my PMs:

Spoiler: Stuff just with Meph (click to show/hide)
And that's it. I never got to do a Merge or explore the mines as a ghost.

Spoiler: Working with Caz (click to show/hide)
I was playing the game fully until the end of Truce Phase 2. This is why I wasn't claiming the Webadict kill and trying to throw suspicion on Jim with Juicebox's death. Heydude's admittance of his crimes shook me, but I still planned on lying about my bounty to make it seem like I wasn't a threat and had no KOR. But then Meph revealed my Stun Bomb purchase by accident so I said fuck it and went legit. Sole survivor victory seemed impossible anyway.

Spoiler: Working with Jim (click to show/hide)
For "I'm willing to believe you. If you need help with something let me know." I was subtly hinting I'd be cool with taking out Caz and Heydude together, but it never came to fruition. Cooperating seemed like the much better option to increase my success rate.

Probably missed some but whatever.

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(What’s the deadline for the PM?)
24 hours left to sign-up. Anyone that wants to join/spectate, come out of the woodwork now!
24 hours from that post.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 3 - Game over! 4 Exterminators Escaped!
« on: December 19, 2020, 04:59:52 pm »
Lol, I was actually trying to get you to join us in the Merge, and you would've learned the secret: We were only Exterminators because we were told we were Exterminators.
There wasn't enough in-game time for either me or Luckyowl to have a chance of winning, we died too late. I feel bad for Luckyowl because he was innocent but had no chance of victory. He just made the extremely poor call to lie about stuff deadchat could confirm and then proceeded to PULL A GUN OUT IN FRONT OF EVERYONE.

EDIT:
I can post all of my PMs later.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 3 - Game over! 4 Exterminators Escaped!
« on: December 19, 2020, 04:15:21 pm »
I'm sorry to Juicebox and 4maskwolf for leading to your demises and causing you to lose.

I'm sorry to Jim for doubting him at first.

I'm not sorry for Webadict's demise because it looks like he won anyway so I'm sure he's cool with it now.

Lastly, fuck you Caz.

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