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Quote from: ToonyMan on July 02, 2014, 07:12:49 pm

I think you're informed if you're redirected anyway?

Me? I would assume so.  I get the name of the person each time.

Good.

@NQT:

Quote from: 4maskwolf on July 02, 2014, 02:33:12 pm

If the dark magus can do culty things N1, then we can't take Toaster for granted as safe.  HOWEVER, the dark magus will be one of the four people who have yet to be revealed.

If I trust you, sure. I'm just worried that we are at LYLO and this is a clever scum ruse to force a final mislynch and bring the game on home. It would be exactly the kind of gambit a Toony-Wolf-Toaster team would come up with. There's so much I need to look back over, and so little time.

It would be a clever gambit, but from my perspective it's impossible.

Toony

Quote from: ToonyMan on July 02, 2014, 02:13:47 pm

I've mentioned this a lot, but it's possible that Jack AT blocked the N1 kill.

Do you think Jack would have discerned a player N1 and protected them?

Yes.

Quote from: ToonyMan on July 02, 2014, 02:13:47 pm

A one-shot conversion is also possible, but then that means we'd only have to watch out for Toaster. We can force him to claim if we have to.

Your utter conviction in this makes me suspicious.

I'll concede that our scum team could have a one-shot convert at most, if they used it signs all point to it being N1. This would mean that Toaster is the only possible candidate, not you or me. Your suspicion of me has been wasted since the game started.

Also, I am not suspecting a 4mask-NQT-Toaster scum team at all, wouldn't that be a similar situation?

Quote from: ToonyMan on July 02, 2014, 04:25:10 pm

I don't believe there's more than 3 scum at most left, and they should all be part of this scum team. I think everybody who's claimed so far can be believed with the most suspicious being Flabort.

Roles might be believed but not alignments. It all hinges on whether Wolf is scum and there's only one way of finding that out.

Wolf is probably town. I'm not against lynching him to confirm his alignment, but I'm not going to push that lynch.

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@Hapah:

Quote from: ToonyMan on July 02, 2014, 01:55:49 pm

Persus13, Hapah, and Ottofar as our scum team. Anybody have any problems with this? Specifically, the people I'm accusing.

Are you asking if the accused have any problems with it, or if anyone else has problems with who you are accusing? Assuming the latter but wanted to check, since the former is rather obvious, lol.

@Persus13: Are you okay with being lynched via process of elimination? Have any analysis to give?
@Hapah: Are you okay with being lynched via process of elimination? Have any analysis to give?
@Ottofar: Are you okay with being lynched via process of elimination? Have any analysis to give?

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@4maskwolf:

NQT: you know the reason why I inspected you?  Because I was sure you were scum.  You were arguing to keep a necromancer alive with a scumteam of unknown size and abilities in play.  I was going to announce two confirmed town and one confirmed scum this morning.
And then you came back town.

Yeah, I have to admit that's pretty surprising. I think NQT is being too paranoid. But I'll believe your inspect. All of your inspect choices seem legit (there could be an Illusionist but arrugh).

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Persus13 does seem like a good lynch since he's been around to answer questions, what say you?

First role-claims, then reads.

ToonyMan - Town Priest
flabort - Town Sage
Persus13 - ???
notquitethere - ???
Hapah - ???
Toaster - ???
zombie urist - Town Sexton
4maskwolf - Town Seer
Ottofar - ???

I don't believe there's more than 3 scum at most left, and they should all be part of this scum team. I think everybody who's claimed so far can be believed with the most suspicious being Flabort.

Scum

Ottofar - Zero commitment. Talk.
Persus13 - Weird behavior and questions, would like them to talk.
Hapah - Posts seem okay enough, if they're scum they're the most competent player they have. Mainly labeling them scum from process of elimination.

Middle Ground

Flabort - Giving us useful information, pretty sure they're town.
Toaster - Town inspected by 4mask N1, could have changed by now.

Town

4maskwolf - I believe their claim, the "you can lynch me to prove it" line being quite genuine.
Notquitethere - Town inspected by 4mask N3.
Zombie Urist - I'm confident my revive worked.

I've mentioned this a lot, but it's possible that Jack AT blocked the N1 kill.

A one-shot conversion is also possible, but then that means we'd only have to watch out for Toaster. We can force him to claim if we have to.

@Flabort:
What the heck are you asking?

My zombie didn't kill Jack. Jack was already dead when he got there. There's someone else out there with a kill.

What happens to your zombie friend after you die?

PFP

Yay I was right about IG.

We'll be two deadly third-parties down at worst, and plus I revived a townie back.

If Meph gave the scum a one-shot conversion like last time then I'd be mad, but we should still be able to win with our track record so far. We can just lynch Toaster since he's the converted.

If Meph gave scum a typical conversion ability then, no that's terrible. Only a scum team that does not have this ability would try to scare the town with it. Especially if IG/MOWE also flip third-party. That seems wrong since conversions on third-parties fail right? What's the point in that.

You know who else isn't convinced a cult exist? A confirmed townie. Until I see evidence...no I don't think they exist.