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Which two townies are the mafia?

Scientist can't be a JOAT unless a town player is lying.  Why the shit would a town player be hiding their role still?

There's a mafia JOAT. If they'd really wanted ToonyMan dead, why not simply Strongman kill him? If EP is mafia, and they took ToonyMan at his word on that threat, they'd have had to Role Block and kill him, which strikes me as oddly inefficient, and guaranteed to set EP up for serious suspicion today. I believe that was partly your plan, ToonyMan? To draw the mafia out defending EP?

Well, if I died last night I would have been the only death, that probably would put heat on Elephant Parade since I am suspicious of his attitude to me when I said I was going to shoot him.  You're right that it's odd Scientist blocked me, but I won't believe he's mafia unless somebody claims a power-role because it's literally impossible for him to be mafia otherwise.

ToonyMan:
What's your stance on this, now?

I suspected you and Scientist at the start of today because you two were the only people who weren't voting DarkStar at Day 2 end.  I am that simple-minded, but hey look I'm pretty sure one of you is scum now!

Tiruin satisfies the condition I said there.  Scientist could be scum, but I really really doubt it unless somebody claims.

I didn't action last night.  My plan was to bait the mafia into killing since they think the game would end if I were to kill as well, but that didn't end up happening it seems like!

I sadly can't confirm Scientist's block, since I received no PM, but I believe their claim of Jailkeeper and I can prove it in my thoughts below.

I wrote my thoughts down after Tiruin flipped SK:

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The seven letters rolled:
HKK????

HKKP??? if Scientist is telling the truth (I believe they are...maybe...Pufferfish not using their ability on N1 is very suspicious).

Scum team has to be TTT or T with the SK flipped now.

If everybody is telling the truth then the letters we generated are HKKPTTT.  This means the scum have a goon and a JOAT left.

Scientist can't be lying because that would make 4 Ts and that doesn't have any serial killer...so Scientist is most likely telling the truth.  I hope he protects me Night 3.  :)

*Post-Edit*: It seems you did but not to protect me. :(

That also means out of the remaining players:

Elephant Parade
Superblackcat [E]
makeinu [E]
NativeForeigner

Two of these players are mafia, with at least one being a JOAT.
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I don't believe Makeinu is mafia so the last two scum are in the group Elephant Parade, Superblackcat, and Nativeforeigner.

Elephant Parade, is Superblackcat or Nativeforeigner your buddy?  If you won't admit that, will you at least say who you find more suspicious?

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As a side note, I will ridicule and make fun of people who vote me.  I am town.  On Day 2 DarkStar fake-claimed vig and I almost got lynched instead of him.  On Day 3 Tiruin fake-claimed vig and I almost got lynched instead of him.  I swear to God I am a town vigilante who hasn't shot for three days now.

Quote from: ToonyMan on January 24, 2014, 09:23:13 pm

Quote from: Tiruin on January 24, 2014, 09:17:49 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on January 24, 2014, 09:16:16 pm

Quote from: Elephant Parade on January 24, 2014, 08:39:59 pm

ToonyMan: Haphazardly killing people is neither polite nor a good idea. What is your rationale for killing me? Why do you think it's a good idea?

You know, I haven't actually killed anybody yet.  Who should I shoot instead?

Yeah, don't bother to answer my question on why you picked EP over SBC or even NF.
Sure.

That was EP's question not yours!  I already explained why I was thinking of him as my kill target so I wanted to hear who he thinks I should do instead, seems more productive.

Personally, I think you should have scientist jail you so that we get a mostly-confirmed townie. Also, you didn't actually answer my question. I asked why you were planning to kill me.

I don't really mind Scientist jailing me, but that doesn't mean they're town.  A JOAT doing a role-block would be indistinguishable I think.  At the very least, I'll be able to confirm the block which Tiruin is unable to do.

Either that or I get killed. 

ToonyMan: Haphazardly killing people is neither polite nor a good idea. What is your rationale for killing me? Why do you think it's a good idea?

You know, I haven't actually killed anybody yet.  Who should I shoot instead?

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@Tiruin:
Okay here's something, what would have happened if you chose not to kill both nights?  Would ZU and Hapah still be alive?  Would even Persus still be alive?  This means the scum aren't killing for some reason or your kills are perfectly lining up with the mafia kills...which speaks terribly of your choices in target.  I can't emphasis this enough.

Toony: I'd like to hear why you think a no-lynch is at all a good idea.

I'm not actually in support of it.  I just threw it out as a thought if somebody can think of any good solution.

I do have a stupid plan we could do, but it would almost guarantee a mafia win unless there's no SK and Tiruin is mafia.

The premise:
We could no lynch and Tiruin and I will shoot each other tonight.

The problem:
Unless Tiruin is mafia and there's no SK I think that's a win for mafia if they just kill somebody that isn't one of us.

I really don't trust Tiruin to be town, but unless we have the most ideal situation it's not worth doing unless anybody has any solutions.