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Also answer me:

3. @NQT:
I noticed something that doesn't make any sense, for somebody after the Death Shaman why did you never inspect myself or Zombie Urist?
And also I don't remember but did you mention what you did Night 0?  That would be good.

I agree with the witch.  If we lynch ZU, Hapah is just going to resurrect him at night to fulfill his wincon.

Why don't we lynch the witch instead?  Or at the very least, not lynch the guy who wants to get lynched!

Also yes NQT, you may not win if we lynch Hapah and the town wins.  But there is myself, Shakerag, and Birdy who just want Hapah dead and only one of you that wants ZU dead.  I think Hapah is going to be the dead one instead.

No seriously if we look at just people's wincons the votes should look like this:

Hapah: ToonyMan, Shakerag, Birdy
Zombie Urist: NQT, Zombie Urist
No lynch/anything else: Hapah

Oppose Shorten  Vote Hapah

Hrm.  Is lynching ZU a good idea though?  They seem fine with dying, a jester even, and probably have the ability to kill themselves at night anyway.  I guess were aren't in lylo...

But no, I don't want to lynch ZU.

ToonyMan, Shakerag, and Birdy have all claimed Vanilla Townie so we would be "none-ing" every night.

NQT's actions:

N1:
Leafsnail (grey blanket, Martin Brouillart, farmer, modest means)
Dariush (Michiel Verdomme, signs of absense, crude tools indicative of apprentices)
Ottofar (Mathieu Gendre, oldest of three children, whole family dead except youngest brother who was left with a monastery and hasn't been seen since)

N2:
Toaster (Jean Petit, farmer, bag of coins under his pillow, rented room in grungy inn away from centre of town)
Vector (Marie Bouve, lives in Viscount's home, slither of silk still clings to seam of fancy pair of boots)
Okami (Colin Fleury, appears to live in cooperage workshop, old armchair in corner smells faintly of alcohol)

N3:
Lenglon (Regnault Coullart, shoemaker, one good cloak, lives in small cluttered workshop, craftsmanship of shoes is good but the leather is poor)
Vector x2 (has two sons apprenticed in carpenter's guild, consider going to Toulouse to confirm other part of story but its too far, referenced in books around the castle, she obviously knows to sleep here where she is safe, she is asleep in room along with her two children)

N4:
Ability investigate Vector/Shakerag (has no abilities)

Hapah's abilities:

-The normal passive Witch magic detection. The only time it fired was on N3, on both kills, but I couldn't pull anything concrete from it. (PPE: And maybe N4, I saw something when I was leaving Leng's house)
-A 1-shot revive. The nice thing about this is that it removes all 1-shot powers from the person being resurrected. I still have it.
-An unlimited-shot Weaken. If the target has any limited-use abilities, it removes a shot from one at random. If all they have is unlimited-shot powers, it turns them into 4-shots. If they don't have any, then it doesn't do anything, I guess.

Zombie Urist's testimony:

I'm the death shaman and I've already basically won. I was totally trolling about being lovers with Tiruin. I didn't think anyone would believe me, but I guess not.

I don't need to kill demons or witches. I won't claim my wincon.

The reason I haven't left is because there's another faction (possibly two) that need me to win. I killed Tiruin, Solifuge, and Lenglon. Tiruin was life shaman (obvious), Solifuge was demon (obvious to me, see D1 Okami), and I thought Lenglon got culted because her playstyle changed.

I am 99% sure the demons are mad at me because I killed Solifuge, which would explain why NQT wants me dead. My flavor tells me that Soli's soul is still possessed by a demon.

N0 -
Hapah weakens Shakerag.

D1 -
Tiruin lynched, flips Life Shaman.
Hapah weakens ToonyMan.

N1 -
Hapah weakens ToonyMan.
Dariush contacts ToonyMan.
Nobody dies.

D2 -
Tiruin resurrects herself. 
Dariush lynched, flips Witch Maiden.

N2 -
Hapah weakens Tiruin.
Tiruin killed by Zombie Urist. (I seem to remember guessing that)
Zombie Urist "dies".

D3 -
Toaster lynched, flips Witch Crone.

N3 -
Hapah does nothing.
Leafsnail killed, flips VT.
Solifuge killed by Zombie Urist, flips Dark Child.

D4 -
IronyOwl lynched, flips VT.

N4 -
Hapah weakens Lenglon.
Lenglon killed by Zombie Urist.
Zombie Urist is resurrected. (Hapah claims not to have done it and I don't see why ZU would ever want to be alive, so I'm guessing it was Birdy or maaaaaybe NQT, but that's doubtful, it's probably Birdy).

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A few observations:

1. If there's another demon around, it's Birdy.  I'm quite confident the last two townies in this game are me and Shakerag, and Birdy isn't cleared by NQT.  Unfortunately we don't really have the luxury to lynch Birdy on such a large gamble.

2. Leafsnail's kill has gone unclaimed.  That was the brutal one with the plants and stuff.  Zombie Urist has claimed every other kill except that one.  Interestingly, it's the night that Hapah "none'd".  I'll have to point my finger of suspicion at that.

3. @NQT:
I noticed something that doesn't make any sense, for somebody after the Death Shaman why did you never inspect myself or Zombie Urist?

And also I don't remember but did you mention what you did Night 0?  That would be good.

4. @Zombie Urist:

I don't need to kill demons or witches. I won't claim my wincon.

Is it because we can easily deduce that it's "Death Shaman dead, Life Shaman dead"?

Also, you don't seem to be able to kill anybody when you're alive.  So you're going to be staying like that.  Though, looking at Night 2 it looks like you suicide-killed Tiruin, which seems extremely OP, but whatever...

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I don't really understand though.  If we assume the town's real wincon is Death Shaman dead, Life Shaman alive, then how would the town ever accomplish that?  We have no revivers.  We actually seem to have very little power or abilities at all and if NQT isn't town then we have zero abilities in total.

Also, there's no way for us to keep ZU from dying, even if we don't lynch him he seems able to kill himself.  What the hell.

PFP

ZU being the DS is very very not surprising.

Bigger post later.

If you can tell us everything you know then yes, extend.  Did you res ZU?

I still kinda find it suspicious how tunnely NQT is and his focus on killing me, given how everyone doesn't want to kill the death shaman.

We probably do really, because it's the witch wincon that wants the DS alive.  Though the DS probably wants to be dead, given how Tiruin said their goal is to keep both alive.

I have no abilities so I haven't done anything.

Might as well state it at this point (though now Hapah doesn't have to answer my question):

Birdy and Lenglon both mentioned not having any abilities Day 3.  Given how town don't seem to have any abilities (except the Inquisitor) this is where my intuition buzz came from.

And today, Shakerag said the same thing, "I have been mind-numbingly vanilla this whole game."  It's more recent which makes it more doubtful, but NQT is clearing them.

The last witch has to be Hapah or ZU.  And ZU is the Tiruin counterpart (he admits this himself).