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« on: May 06, 2013, 04:16:15 pm »
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I found a Scroll of Slowing D4 and decided to test Hapah's "I slowed Toony, no kill" hyphothesis. I was also redirected to Toony by someone - presumably Hapah, since you seem to have used some follow item - but that didn't matter, since I wanted to use it on Toony anyway.How does that work? If it's another delay my "supposed" kill from the night before last should have went through. I used a Scroll of Misdirection last night which redirects anybody who targets me too so that doesn't make any sense. Plus, if you wanted to target me in the first place why did you have to get "redirected" by someone...oh I get it. My redirect redirected onto myself...
I've confirmed it for myself, at least, that it's Toony that's got the kill. He will have three kills D5, but again, that won't matter since he could have won with two kills too.Come on, this is just a repeat of yesterday. Except I don't know if it's you or Hapah, I'm gonna lean on you for now until Hapah gives some insight. I don't think I can warrant a vote though (because again, I don't know which it is and it's mylo).
This time, I know it's not a ScumHapah-ploy to win and I know scum must've at least tried to action because they wouldn't not action in these circumstances (as far as I can think).Unless they were busy setting somebody else up.
You know what doesn't make any sense either, why didn't you try to kill me last night if you are so sure I'm scum? Let me try to guess, it's because Hapah hadn't delayed me yet and you weren't actually "sure". Your reasoning is ridiculous, you could even kill me tonight (although last night feels more damning to me).I have not lied. It would be stupid to use a killing item after announcing that I have a killing item. I wanted to make myself a magnet for night actions (turns out I can't use a Staff of Monster Detection on myself).Both Hapah and Toony's stories are plausible, so it comes down to this:That's a pretty bad outcome and also makes me think you were totally lying about having a wand of death (since you could just say "Yeah I'll zap Hapah tonight")
We lynch Toony and he flips Town, and Hapah kills one person tonight for the win.
Not really. You lynch Hapah or me (if you want to put this at 50% odds then fine), town has about a 50% chance of victory.Killing you, is, in my opinion, the safer gamble.We NoLynch, and either Toony gets two kills for the win, or Hapah gets a kill and we go to LYLO.This is really our best option (and no, not because it doesn't involve me dying). Nobody is coming forth with an item claim to block me, so I really think our best option is to gamble with the four of us that at least one of us will be able to "stop" me tonight to clear my claim. We will likely be at LYLO tomorrow but it's certainly better than an almost guaranteed defeat.
Why were you redirected? I'm not sure if attract would cause that or something else.Anybody?Can you clarify the question?
The only way I can think of that doesn't involve a stupid mafioso or a delayed mafioso is this: That the mafioso had both the Scroll of Delaying and the kill free to use, and decided that instead of killing someone and risking having to survive in LYLO, to use the Delay on a Townie instead of the kill, and then frame that townie as being scum using this and the lack of an NK. The mafioso could then lead an easy mislynch in the eventual MYLO, dismissing the no-lynch by using the doublekill argument, and be safely out of harm's reach, thus sealing the game. That's very similar to what's happening here, except we don't know if Hapah is pursuing in earnest or executing such a plan. For a clever player, this isn't out of the realm of possibility at all, esp. considering the Delay scroll is a common item (I think).This is exactly what I'm thinking.
Can someone help summarize what this means to me?And why did you want to use it on Hapah?I wouldn't put it past DeathSword to not realize that the Scroll of Fading, or whatever it was he used on Captain Ford, is a potential LYLO breaker.
Both Hapah and Toony's stories are plausible, so it comes down to this:That's a pretty bad outcome and also makes me think you were totally lying about having a wand of death (since you could just say "Yeah I'll zap Hapah tonight")
We lynch Toony and he flips Town, and Hapah kills one person tonight for the win.
We lynch Hapah and he flips Town, and Toony gets two kills tonight for the win.This is also a bad outcome, but you're assuming one of the two has to be scum again.
We NoLynch, and either Toony gets two kills for the win, or Hapah gets a kill and we go to LYLO.This is really our best option (and no, not because it doesn't involve me dying). Nobody is coming forth with an item claim to block me, so I really think our best option is to gamble with the four of us that at least one of us will be able to "stop" me tonight to clear my claim. We will likely be at LYLO tomorrow but it's certainly better than an almost guaranteed defeat.
Anybody?I used a Wand of Blessing last night. Toony's weapons received an upgrade. I was aiming for Hapah.I can confirm this. How did this happen?
Hapah delay Toony
Toony gets delayed
Okami blesses Hapah, but it goes onto Toony
LNCP attracts Okami and Toony
Because it's what I think is the most likely scenario, but it doesn't mean I'm going to lynch somebody in mylo because I'm so sure of myself (he wouldn't have that dangerous possible conceivable two night-kills either which is good insurance). I don't really think you're scum (I just can't see it with Leafsnail being killed by you N1), but LNCP could be still, for instance.What makes sense to me is, Hapah uses a delay when there's likely going to be no other kills, targeting a prime suspect, nobody doubts this knowledge and lynch them (because obviously if we no-lynch they'll get two kills!), and then he just kills somebody at night for the win. I'm not sure how he would avoid being killed himself, but there's tons of usable items in this game-type it seems.If that's the case, why are you voting NoLynch and not Hapah?
I used a Wand of Blessing last night. Toony's weapons received an upgrade. I was aiming for Hapah.I can confirm this. How did this happen?
Yeah it's true, conceivably. It's true for anybody that you delayed Hapah. Unfortunately, even if I had a delay or block it wouldn't make a difference in this case to "prove" my claim. Okami could target me with his kill tonight, which I would prefer since at the very least I know we will almost certainly lose if I get lynched, no question.You're a fool to lynch anybody today. Even if I was scum you would be a complete fool.That could only possibly hold if we had another delay or block. If someone has one, I'm all ears. Otherwise, couldn't you conceivably kill 2 people the next night?
Just so you know: I also have my second year finals coming up in three weeks. This will decide whether I get to enter the uni of my choice or not, depending on how well I do, so it's very important. Add on that three tests I have in the interim, which means I'm utilising as much time as possible to study. It'll inevitably come out of this, so I thought I should mention this before anything happens. Also not to make anyone expect WoTs from me again.Yeah I'm fucking swamped with school too. Finals are next week why did I sub this game
EVA 3.0......... what the hell!?!?Yeah Rebuild 3 was fucking silly. I was pretty into it the entire time though, it should have been three times longer!