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KotM4 totally needs a TRUE MAFIA KING.

ToonyMan: How do you feel about Ford denying you the oportunity to ask if I am king this time?

I'm just happy somebody asked it.  I probably would have if I got on sooner. 

You were town last round so my accusation of you was incorrect.  I would still prefer you make content-ful posts though.

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Toaster:

Quote from: Toaster on March 29, 2013, 08:53:07 pm

In this game, probably.  Not 100% certainly, but probably.  Are you looking for a block claim?  You sure sound like you are.

Indeed I am. I blocked you last night using a one-shot I got from Hapah Night 0. (I figured there was no point in dying with it, and rolled to pick between you and Hapah)
So to be clear, you're saying you weren't blocked, then? If that's the case, then it looks like Toony was telling the truth about delaying me. Unless there are anarchists or redirects involved, you not being blocked would mean that both he and I are likely town.
PPE: Oooh ... actually, based on an answer I got from Leafsnail a while ago, it looks like you only get a blocked message if you actually took an action. If you didn't take an action, then I guess I can't verify Toony's claim. (A more recent answer had given me the impression that you'd get a message even if you didn't take an action)
ToonyMan: Your thoughts?

I wouldn't put these claims too highly.  I do feel more confident you're town based on my night-action, but I can't make the same mistake I made with UI two rounds ago.  It does help at least in confirming actions (I think with anarchists nerfed now they don't actually work anymore?), but I won't put you off my radar just because I got a town-type of result.

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I have some school work to do this weekend (Spring Break is over!!) and since weekends don't count as hours I likely won't have more than an afternoon and evening post at best.

ToonyMan:

Quote from: ToonyMan on March 29, 2013, 10:42:29 pm

It's also possible Okami accidentally killed himself (Stalker can either inspect or kill at night) like the other King Mafia likely did but then we'd have a missing kill and other headaches.

What does the inspect/role have anything to do with that?

Huh?  If you mean my parenthesis I was stating the entire role for the uninformed.

My personal favorite Webadict N1 death is when I plasma bombed him in Paranormal 15.

Toony:

Quote from: ToonyMan on March 27, 2013, 07:04:48 pm

It should also be said that Deathsword and Okami were town last round, the hammerers.  I was also the L-1 voter in both cases.

I think this falls under one of Web's town tells- that of scum playing textbook to avoid doing things considered scummy.  Do you think that is applicable in this game?

Yes.  The King Mafia so far have been acting anxious.  Toaster wanted to extend the game to avoid dying, UI hardly posted at all.

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Toaster:
I meant accidentally hammering twice, and was thinking more about mistakes carrying over between rounds, but it now occurs to me that someone's alignment in one round means nothing for their alignment in another. So, bad logic on my end. With this in mind, my answer of overall being willing to believe it was a mistake remains unchanged.

I agree, accidental hammers are totally possible.

If anything anybody who tries lynching someone for hammering solely because of that (UI on Deathsword and sort of me, Ottofar in one of the older KotM rounds) is being a scumass.

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ToonyMan

Quote from: ToonyMan on March 27, 2013, 12:48:38 pm

Not much.

So, on a scale of One (Town) to Ten (KING MAFIA), how much is not much?

I'm still a town Delayer.  I didn't even get a PM last night.

Quote from: ToonyMan on March 27, 2013, 12:48:38 pm

I said I would delay Captain Ford last night, but I actually delayed you Okami just to at least cover the possibility it was you and not Ford (Ford wouldn't mafiakill if he knew I was going to delay him, probably).

I figured you might do that.

Why?

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Quote from: ToonyMan on March 27, 2013, 07:04:48 pm

Quote from: Deathsword on March 27, 2013, 04:32:05 pm

ToonyMan:

Quote from: ToonyMan on March 27, 2013, 12:48:38 pm

Deathsword.  You're King Mafia now right?  I'm so jealous.

Not yet. Maybe in the next round.

Same question, same answer.

ToonyMan, are you just going to let that vote sit on me while doing nothing or are you going to do something with it?

Let me get this straight.  Your second post of the round doesn't do anything but complain about the guy voting you and that you have bad internet?  Deathsword.  I think you are the one that needs to stop sitting around doing nothing.

Urist Imiknorris has been killed.
He was an Anarchist Hospital director (mafia) and KING MAFIA.
Round 2 is now over.

I love whoever is killing the King Mafia.  It's hilarious, hahahaa.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA it doesn't matter how wrong I am they always die.  Although that means our vig is still out there.

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Let me reiterate that anyone who sent Anarchist is an asshole.

You should have seen how pissed I was when Tiruin flipped, and THEN Urist Imik flips as an Anarchist too (although I believe that means Deathsword was the one who picked that originally).

So yeah screw you Tiruin and Deathsword.  If there's anymore Anarchists I'm going to kill myself.

Captain Ford must have figured out there was at least one anarchist because he mentions it quite a lot Round 2.

ToonyMan:  What all happened in Round Two that will help you find scum in Round Three?

Fucking Anarchists.  Do they stack?  I'm curious whether my delay of UI even had a 25% chance of working.  Either way, I'll need to be less demanding with my power role.  It's still possible that my delay DID work on UI and the Hapah death was from our wonderful vig, but the vig didn't claim (I guess I can't blame them) which made me really confused!

So yeah, I should have saw how fucking lazy UI was being even if it conflicted with my results.  Then again, with Anarchist nerfed now I can at least trust them a little more.

Although it sucks that everybody knows my role now, I'm not King Mafia this round either so it's like...Captain Ford, Deathsword, and I are the only original players left and I still haven't had a chance which I guess is still really likely.

(PPE:
Also when I say "vig" it doesn't have to be like, going out and shooting the mafia dead, it's also possibly a reflect or whatever as well.)

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ToonyMan - I was wrong about you last round.  Has that changed?

Not much.

Since I full-claimed last round there's no reason to hide what my actions are I guess.  I said I would delay Captain Ford last night, but I actually delayed you Okami just to at least cover the possibility it was you and not Ford (Ford wouldn't mafiakill if he knew I was going to delay him, probably).  This doesn't matter too largely because of the shitton of anarchists we have but it's worth admitting.

That also means you likely didn't kill Urist Imik.

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For the record, I shot Hapah N1 R1.  If Toony delayed me, no idea where the bullet came from.

Huh, Leafsnail confirmed that your kill wouldn't work then.  So somebody else shot Hapah and it lined up perfectly.

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Quote from: Toaster on March 27, 2013, 10:06:47 am

How does [asking about anarchists] help you find scum?

If you were to have given me a compelling argument as to why there couldn't be any more anarchists, then we might have got a clearer idea about the night results if we don't manage to get the King today.
Do you think the wisdom or folly of massclaiming has changed in any way when you take into account the fact that survivors quite possibly will have picked up additional powers?
Toonyman, what think you of this?

On mass-claiming?  If there's any more anarchists they'll probably keep their mouth shut in shame.  And I don't think a mass-claim is a good idea either.

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Quote from: Toaster on March 27, 2013, 10:06:47 am

For the record, I shot Hapah N1 R1.  If Toony delayed me, no idea where the bullet came from.

Only Leafsnail knows what happened N1. I asked him about multiple anarchists, and it turns out their effects stack. Everyone had a 75% chance to be randomized that night.
Actually, the flavor kind of suggests you killed yourself. It clearly described a suicide pack.

They stack??  Hahahaha how am I still alive in this game...so many random chances of dying...

Wait maybe there isn't a vig at all.  Maybe Toaster and Urist Imik BOTH killed themselves.  Oh god I'm dying

Fuck anarchists but they are hilarious

ToonyMan:

Quote from: ToonyMan on March 26, 2013, 03:22:33 pm

If the wife is murdered chances are the husband did it.  At least, in fiction. 
But this is a fictional game!

...Hapah isn't my wife.
I'd still like to understand what your logic was, exactly, even though it's irrelevant now.

I was being an idiot really.  I don't like how you specifically dissected one thing of my list on suspicions on you (it's like saying 10% of my case is wrong so my whole case is wrong).  And while it was wrong I thought you were being anal.  I should have just wrote it off the list instead of trying desperately to literate a meaning from it.  It sort of works, right??

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Deathsword.  You're King Mafia now right?  I'm so jealous.

Quote from: ToonyMan on March 26, 2013, 02:25:00 pm

Wait that won't work if the mafia doesn't use their mafiakill. 

I was going to say.
Okami, that was just dumb.

The day was going to end in a few hours regardless, and I'm happy as long as it's you or Tiruin.

The mafia being unable to kill is also really really good, wouldn't you say?