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ToonyMan: Heheh, amusing theory. Bit far fetched, don't you think? Especially given:

I admit I'm disappointed we didn't get to have an epic confrontation with you being unable to FoS, although it looks like MBP/Tylui managed to do something better anyway.

Quote from: Bookthras on December 13, 2012, 05:24:31 pm

ToonyMan:

Quote from: Bookthras on December 21, 2012, 08:07:53 pm

Jack and Hapah

Plus if we follow your chain of thought it means that I have a mafiakill I can only use on alternating nights, and with a target that must be named ahead of time.

Sorry Book, but those quotes are from D3, which is perfectly aligned with my theory.  I'm sure you'd still have a mafiakill on even days, you just can't mafiaflip them.

I can't really hold this off as a coincidence, something is happening, you didn't make an accusations of being set-up so you probably don't think that.

Quote from: ToonyMan on December 28, 2012, 04:09:57 pm

Bookthras states clearly that Hapah is scummy, but now this day when I asked Bookthras he doesn't even make a mention of him, strange isn't it?

Not that strange, since my comment about Hapah's scumminess was based on an error, so when clarified I went back on that. Not that I'm exculpating Phantom/Hapah, but at least their comments are consistent after all, when I earlier thought they hadn't been. I'm not saying one or the other is surely town, but after that clarification Zombie climbed on my suspicion list (which already had MBP (my vote target from D3) and Jack (my scummiest gut feel but thin case)), so I focused on those first.

Ah, okay.

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Quote from: ToonyMan on December 27, 2012, 02:30:51 pm

Lastly, just to put it out there I can confirm that one or more people targeted me last night with an action. 

That would be me tracking you. Anything to say about last night's action?

I just know somebody targeted me.  I didn't do anything myself.

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As for information I can share, here's some. Tylui got an overpowered role, with a scan. He used it day 1 nor 2 to scan bookies and Dariush. You both came up town. I also do remember form years back that you were a dick even if town. ( I mean that not in a pejorative way, let's be clear), and the questionning fit that, so I'm inclined to believe it. Last night Hapah gave me a no result. I want to hear what he thinks of it, and what may have caused it. Finally, reasons i think the game as not ended is that i get a countdown in all action post I get form Wubby. We are at 2 right now, from 7 at the start. It the reaosn why an outsider or other weird role might be what stopping the town win.

What does a 'no result' mean?  A third-party role like Outsider?

Also, why didn't you say you scanned Bookthras D1 (even though you said you blocked Dariush D1) during D3 when you had a 50/50 chance to die?

Your role also looks extremely un-town, with everybody getting burned alive Day 6 or 7 with you being the only one standing.  For Surprise Inspection, it says "true alignment" so maybe the read on Bookthras is accurate?  Either way I'm favoring Book's side on this one based on all your inconsistencies.  I'm still waiting for Hapah to respond though.

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SK is less likely since there haven't been any additional unaccounted kills, though the mafia members dying at night is strange.

This is such a true statement you have no idea.  I don't think there's any SKs left (we did really good there), but these three deaths so far have to be from the mafia most most likely.  And this is just estimating, but there's probably two mafia left of the seven of us, with Leafsnail and Toaster being fake-alignment flips.

Although, with this recent "one of the two is almost certainly scum" we can still probably win.

I finished Parasyte.  Yeah that's one of those "you're gonna sleep depressed buddy!" series.  Oh well, I've slept depressed a lot.

Some further laying-in-bed arguments:

Maybe this is part of your role Bookthras?  Your last FoS of the day has always lined up with the "mafiaflipped" dead man the following night.

D1:

Conclusion: Leafsnail is marginally scummier, but Imiknorris is the safer lynch, as he's scummy enough, guaranteed non-town, and his claim could mask a SK.

N1:

Leafsnail has been killed!
Leafsnail was a Conspiracy Theorist (mafia).

Only one dead "mafia".
D2:
Does not FoS anybody this day, is it because you can only do it every other day or because of Shakerag's ability?

As far as the election is concerned, I'll throw my weight behind Toaster, who seems to be the saner choice around.

Also note that you support Toaster instead of Dariush (who was completely set on a Mr. Celt lynch, a confirmed mafia).
Lastly, your comments of Shakerag's role that you probably had to let out even if it was unnecessary:

PS: I totally called it that Shakerag was behind the voting crazyness (yeah, not too esoteric a guess, but still). Too bad he flipped town instead of Outsider, but man, I won't miss that bit. Glad it never rolled "liar's dice voting system."

N2:

Dariush has been killed!
Dariush was a Spacechem Engineer (town).

One dead town.
D3:
Can immediately start FoSing in his first post.

This is a fucking half-assed post if I've ever seen one, Toaster. Two one-sentence rhetoric challenges? In three fucking days, that's all you could come up with?

You're going to side-line the fact that half the other players weren't posting at all?  I think you're just picking your target here, over-aggressively.
N3:

Toaster has been killed!
Toaster was t gym, ycv rvtyu8in (mafia).

Only one dead "mafia".
D4:
FoS someone right now Bookthras or I'm lynching your ass.

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As for Hapah (I'll need to show my logic for that reasoning too, beyond just being passive).  Bookthras wants to lead a lynch on Jack AT at the start of Day3 based on his interactions with Mr. Celt, but Hapah sides with Bookthras just the same.  There is also his vote on Shakerag which he finally puts out after deciding that MBP/Tylui isn't the best choice anymore?  Bookthras states clearly that Hapah is scummy, but now this day when I asked Bookthras he doesn't even make a mention of him, strange isn't it?

Hapah, top suspicions.  Also what do you think of Bookthras?

Okay, some thoughts:

@Bookthras:
Toaster went down in a similar fashion as Leafsnail and I'm curious what you think of that, since you clearly FoS'd both before each day end.

People: during day three Toaster has been getting a free "confirmed townie" pass because of that lynch of MrCelt. But Toaster is the master of the bussing. Go see how he bussed his buddy on BP1 and others, he's the best there is at cunningly using a scumbuddy's blood to wash his hands clean.

That link is nowhere near as substantial.  Toaster's vote wasn't a swing vote in that case, in other words, unless he wanted to tie the vote and fuck himself and his partner the next day there's no way in hell he'd go through with that.  The Mr. Celt lynch was much more concrete and absolute.

I'd also like to hear what you think of Jack AT right now too.

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What I've done for town today is post what's in my posts- that's a silly question so you get a silly answer.  My top three picks?  First is Tylui/MBP, for reasons I've stated on Tylui, and MBP has done nothing to convince me otherwise (and pretty much nothing in general.)  Second is probably ZombieU, for an attitude I can only describe as "Look at me, I'm being helpful!"  Third?  I would have said Deathsword, but Phantom is doing well enough to attribute Deathsword's issues to legitimate RL issues, so back to Hapah for his itchy multilynch trigger finger.

Toaster's last post points suspicions on MBP(Tylui), Zombie Urist(Tiruin), Phantom(Deathsword), and Hapah in a list that incorporates every replaced-in player.

Based on yesterday's day I can still agree MBP is scummy (although it's mainly things that Tylui did and not MBP) and Hapah is being really passive even this late in the game.

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Lastly, just to put it out there I can confirm that one or more people targeted me last night with an action.  I most likely wasn't targeted with an action the other two nights but it's not 100% confirmed, unlike last night.

Overall, second season of Sword Art Online has been pretty lackluster in the story department...  I would still recommend the first season either way...  and this whole thing is based off of some novel?

A lot of anime is based off bad light novels.

FKMTkrazy started DKaiji Kazuya-hen.  Best Christmas ever?

EDIT:
Also what the fuck a new Dorohedoro chapter too.  Yay

I finally finished Angel Densetsu after much motivation.  I enjoyed the first few volumes, but when I realized the mangaka was never going to do anything with the series and I had to experience the same jokes or quirks repeatedly for the next ten volumes my patience quickly wavered and turned into semi-loathing.  Too long for what it is.