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General Discussion / Re: RedKing's East Asian Politics Megathread
« on: October 18, 2016, 08:55:57 pm »
Quote from: MetalSlimeHunt on October 18, 2016, 08:48:42 pm
That's like saying the Vice-President is bad because BLM protestors engaged in mob violence. Being important doesn't give you mind-control powers or omnipotence.

BLM isn't a radical group of vice president supporters.

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General Discussion / Re: RedKing's East Asian Politics Megathread
« on: October 18, 2016, 08:44:59 pm »
The king couldn't have been that good if he allowed people like that to flourish.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 18, 2016, 08:43:55 pm »
It's less epic when you put it that way.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 18, 2016, 07:57:00 pm »
Quote from: Cheeetar on October 18, 2016, 07:44:52 pm
People suggested Tony Abbott being prime minister in Australia would be good for Labour. It was not.

And let's not forget the prediction that Hitler winning in 1932 would bring about communist revolution.  Well I suppose one could say that in 1946 they became half right.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 18, 2016, 07:31:02 pm »
Quote from: PTTG?? on October 18, 2016, 06:21:54 pm
Maybe it would be better for Democrats if Trump won. Then the DNC could get the dead wood burned out and Trump would run the country into the ground enough to remind people what Republicans are best at. You'd think having the model of the south to look at would help, but hey.

God no.  Look at what happened after 2010.  We went from partisanship to outright collapse in basic government.  Everytime we give republicans more power they abuse it.  Electing a manchild isn't going to fix that.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 18, 2016, 04:25:55 pm »
You guys seem to be in agreement?

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 18, 2016, 04:20:38 pm »
Awwww, Canada

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 18, 2016, 03:50:51 pm »
Quote from: Xeron on October 18, 2016, 03:31:49 pm
Quote from: Xeron on October 18, 2016, 05:41:44 am
Moreover, some Snowden documents published in 2014 show that the United States government put Assange on the "2010 Manhunting Timeline",[137] and in the same period they urged their allies to open criminal investigations into the editor-in-chief of WikiLeaks.[138] In the same documents there was a proposal by the NSA to designate WikiLeaks as a "malicious foreign actor", thus increasing the surveillance against it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange#US_criminal_investigation
I do like how almost everyone just changed the subject and ignored this.
There's more though.
https://wikileaks.org/Background-and-Documents-on-Attempts-to-Frame-Assange-as-a-Pedophile-and.html?update2

Oh hey guys, let's assume that the wikileaks guys who have consistently distorted the truth in every circumstance are telling the truth when their leader is accused.

People think they are skeptical because they are irrationally suspicious of actors that are pretty known quantities.  I have a lot of issues with CNN and they are hardly perfect but it's clear where they are coming from.  Wikileaks on the other hand is blatantly trying to deceive you at all times but you accept their story at face value.  It just goes to show that the more cynical a person is, the more naive they are.

It's sad how far wikileaks has strayed from it's founding mission and so quickly.  I would not have thought it possible.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 18, 2016, 12:57:43 pm »
Story romance isn't very endearing in real life.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 18, 2016, 10:32:28 am »
Quote from: LoSboccacc on October 18, 2016, 10:30:51 am
well she was on record asking to "drone" him, so there's that.

Sigh... http://www.snopes.com/julian-assange-drone-strike/

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 18, 2016, 10:19:08 am »
Any and all stories about wikileaks can be explained that Wikileaks is full of shit and pushing a political agenda.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 18, 2016, 09:43:07 am »
You examined your beliefs which puts you waaaaaaaay ahead of the curve.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 18, 2016, 07:10:00 am »
I doubt it was normal.  He was probably under severe surveillance as they were looking for anything to nail him with.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 17, 2016, 10:47:54 pm »
Quote from: UXLZ on October 17, 2016, 10:38:41 pm
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Why are you assuming that everyone who disagrees with you is just parroting the same talking points.  I mean the people you think are all parrots for the same news sources happen to have a massive range of opinions.  In particular Redking and I hate each others guts.  But somehow we have managed to hate each others guts for like a year now without resorting to this sort of silly accusation you have resorted to in a day.

Way to totally miss the context. I'm not saying he's a god damn parrot, I'm asking him why attempting to assemble the truth from varied sources is worse than taking it as gospel from a select few. (A select few that, let me be plain, are going to be biased in some way or another.)

Yes, you are assuming that he is uninformed and just repeating the talking points of the small amount of outlets that pierces his cloud of ignorance.

I assure you this is not true.  Redking draws from a very large number of sources before arriving at the opinions he stubbornly repeats.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 17, 2016, 10:30:44 pm »
quote author=PTTG?? link=topic=159257.msg7221458#msg7221458 date=1476751240]Texas will be a new California.
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Gun folks doesn't want embracing of an individual right to bear arms, they want hostility towards anyone who questions them.  The democrats tried the big tent approach.  It failed because the constituency is really small.  It might win over a few crucial congressional districts but it aint gonna turn Texas into California.

The hispanic vote on the other hand...

Quote from: UXLZ on October 17, 2016, 10:25:19 pm
Quote from: RedKing on October 17, 2016, 10:22:39 pm
So you're taking the Unitarian approach to truth? Pick and choose bits from all over and roll your own?

That might work okay for creating a banal, benign religion, but not for answering tough questions.

And taking the "truth" as gospel from one or three almost certainly biased sources is better how, exactly?

Why are you assuming that everyone who disagrees with you is just parroting the same talking points.  I mean the people you think are all parrots for the same news sources happen to have a massive range of opinions.  In particular Redking and I hate each others guts.  But somehow we have managed to hate each others guts for like a year now without resorting to this sort of silly accusation you have resorted to in a day.

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