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Rounding out my listening for the month is more or less the rest of Haken's discography, of particular note albums Vector and Virus. The timing's a little awful on these- they've nothing whatsoever to do with the pandemic, though Virus came out in 2020; Virus reintroduces some themes that Vector aggregated, while also drawing inspiration from Cockroach King from their Mountain album.

I'm gonna jabber about Virus, since I'm much more fond of this album over its predecessor. It's, well, raw, seething, uniquely miserable. Vocals are consistently pleasant despite being metal after a fashion. Lyrics play on themes of "institutional abuse,physical and mentally abusive relationships, anxiety, depression and suicidal tendencies" to quote wikipedia, so it's kind of a doozy, and its coincidental thematic parallels to the ongoing pandemic welcomes those feelings in to an uncomfortable proximity. It's been really bad for my anxiety, but also I can't get it out of my head, soooo. Carousel is a bop, all ten and a half minutes of it, and the whole five-movement Messiah Complex builds and throws down in a way that gives me goosebumps.

You're not going to feel 'better' after listening to this one, though it's perhaps a mite cathartic if isolation's been tough. Not enough to listen to for emotional support, noo, it's an unhealthy affair. If you're resolute or otherwise indifferent about how your music makes you feel, though, Virus goes hard.

Quote from: None on January 29, 2022, 10:12:16 am

I'm... Not really sure how you detain someone without criminal intent.

I'm equally unsure quite what you mean, heh, unless you mean criminal intent on the part of the detainers. US cops detain folks they're 110% aware have broken no laws or had zero criminal intent pretty much daily. Less jackbooted, there's medical related stuff (quarantine, suicide watch, certain sorts of hospice, etc.) and things like school detention or whatever.

My bad- In hypothetical/ideal terms, with regards to the fuzz, I'm pretty sure they're supposed to have something, besides, y'know, arrest for resisting arrest, or yoked up charges that get dropped once they've done enough inconvenience/damage. This following off the prior discussions of legal action/prison/etc as consequence of this cancelable boogeyman that's getting lobbed around. Pretty sure nobody's pushing to get people medically institutionalized for being a dick or a bigot.

If someone were magically able to be put in custody for Saying The Wrong Thing in a way that isn't related to the justice system, medical system, educational system, whatever, someone's job still isn't going to survive the unmarked absences that follow, since the only thing worse for company image than having peons in the Bad Word Slammer is having peons that aren't working when you expect them to.

Quote from: scriver on January 29, 2022, 11:17:07 am

Why is a good time lady so hard to find?

They’re never taught the art of time-keeping?

I dare say they're fun to watch!

I would actually rather put people in custody than fire them and create martyrs at worst or another unemployed person at best.

No, no, no, no. Better to be jailed than unemployed? Better to have a criminal record than having to explain that bigotry lost you your last gig?

Jesus, d'you know how difficult it is to get work anywhere if you've had any sort of scrap with the law? Talk about corporate cancel culture!

This is like the 'root ball, dirt & all' or 'seed on the bottom of your car' to the 'war on drugs possession'-level misguidance.

Oh, of course, thanks for the correction.

I've read somewhere else that people quite successfully grow mushrooms in, say, a closet, since it's dark and temperature controlled in there and you can just spritz it with some water every so often to keep humidity ideal.

I don't believe they were particularly legal mushrooms in that discussion, though.

I think scriver had a funky little box like a year ago that just needed priming somehow and then it sprouted mushrooms out all over the place, though? It was like a cardboard house and then the mushrooms popped out the windows.

The reason it will become abused, is that somebody, somewhere in the system, has a vested interest in causing or creating that abuse. The only real solution to that is systemic policing, and aggressively so, by the rest of the society.

Let's maybe not leverage the arm of the judiciary system that has a vested interest in incarcerating people for profit and suppressing ideological dissidents/minorities as the conclusive, acceptable level of abuse.

Isn't 'taboo' a systemic cultural policing?

What can't we say in education and sports?

And now I'm 28.