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What about the thing that I saw discussed on the Kitfox Discord? I forget what exactly was said, but it was something about setting "normal pathing" (probably not the right phrase) to 0 and other paths to 1 giving a big boost? What's the deal with that?

I did a 6x6 fort earlier, lasted 25 years. It succumbed to FPS death to an extent near the end, sub-20 FPS, but I eventually figured out that this happened because I completely failed to notice a rabbitsplosion. That and the fact that there were over 100 ghosts, maybe. It was not a good fort. I was just doing it to see if there are any crashes in large embarks, since an easy "kill my game please" button is kinda a bad thing to have in a commercial release. Turns out 6x6 forts actually run about as well as 2x2, which is... really, really not the result I expected.

But did you test 16x16 though?

I saw this mentioned in the recent Blind interview, and wanted to echo that idea here.

Werebeasts and kobolds (or "ambushes" in general) are invisible until a dwarf spots them (and you get no announcement until them), and I suggest this should apply for all the other invasion types; megabeasts, titans, forgotten beasts, and sieges alike. Maybe random animals/cavern creatures as well (no announcement for them though).

It would be both realistic simulation-wise, and !FUN!; imagine keeping guards posted somewhere in a tower see an invasion coming before they're already at your doors, or wandering into another section of the caverns and being attacked by a forgotten beast that you had no idea was already lurking just around the corner.

The announcement could possibly happen before they are spotted via line of sight, in the following ways:

- If justified by them being loud, like "making a racket by marching or banging war-drums, or roaring/stomping things" or something. But the announcement would be vague/only mention what is actually heard, not say specifically "the goblins are here" unless the sound is recognizable/identifiable by your citizens. The marching of goblins is little different to that of humans after all.
- If you received rumor that an invasion was on its way, you will get an announcement on the day they were projected (by the rumor) to arrive, reminding you that an attack is expected any time now.

You will of course get a second more definitive announcement once the attack is confirmed.

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As for the issue Tarn mentioned of creatures "flickering in and out of view" when they repeatedly enter and exit the field of view when they're near the edge (which would be a bit weird/aesthetically displeasing), this could be solved either:

- The way he considered in the interview (only hiding them until they're first spotted, and then keeping them visible from then on).

- By putting an appropriate "countdown" for how long they must be out of view until they are hidden again (this would have the bonus of making it possible to "lose" enemies and worry about them hiding in some currently empty hallway). Also checking how far they are able to pathfind (so that they don't become stealthed again after you trap them in a small chamber of your fort, since you know where they are). Note that's how far they are ABLE to go; if they have a tunnel off to the caverns, it would make sense for them to vanish, even if they actually do stay in the room. Some kind of check for how big their "connectivity map" or whatever it's called.

My vote personally is for the second option.

I suppose this mean a new user ID is going to be different probably? That's honestly the main part of this that I find bothersome (because my github repos link to the old one), since re-uploading the mods themselves will be simple enough for me.

Dwarves can then tunnel through your desk, into your hands, and make a fortress inside your body.

Dwarves will build loads of constructed walls around your skin, making you invincible to everything except other dwarves with pickaxes.

which can also change them into goblins if one is unlucky.

Worse, change them to elves.

Will elves "tree quota" be harshened in the Steam release? Last I heard, it was still around a hundred trees, which might have been threatening/impactful when trees were only 1 tile, but it seems very easy to comply with their demands now while still getting all the wood you could want.

EDIT: nevermind, I checked the devlog like I should have in the first place and saw it has been.

Whatbeasts. If your fort is attacked by one, your dwarves won't acknowledge it at all; what beast?!