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I wasn't getting any meat from ducks. A check of the raws showed them as size 1000. That's the third of the size of a chicken.

What.

I know there isn't a lot of meat on them but seriously. I've since corrected this in my own raws and made them the size of chickens.

Edit :

A quick poke about in the other raws and I find this. Rabbit, size 500. Cavey, Size 800.

Since when were rabbits smaller than guina pigs?

I fear the only way of dealing with this monstrosity is either to wait for it's head or lower body to get chipped off (which might take another year) or lure it into another location for obsidianising. It's not a blob at least, so it should be killable by dismemberment. I think you've just been really unlucky so far.

Edit : Is a cavein possible? That would obliterate it.

Right, but the minute I open up a tunnel to the ground floor of that cavern, any flying forgotten beasties will gleefully shortcut through my stone grate drainage system. In other words they can smash things above them.  Not the answer I was hoping for but it does answer that question!

1) Do traps survive submerging? I know pressure plates do.

2) Do they activate when submerged?

3) Do things drown in 6/7 water, assuming they would drown at all, or does it need to be 7/7

4) do building destroyers attack and destroy floor grates?

5)Can they do so from beneath?

Dear Madam Urist

I must ask that you stop making a fuss and shouting at our good mayor and get on with planting the food we need to survive. We know that flies health and safety concern, and rats are a dire and unimaginable threat.

In accordance with your wishes, Bridgechanneled and her six kittens have been put on the case.

However your other complaints are groundless. The missing chairs and well were built months ago, and the fact you had to sleep in the dirt is down to the fact you refused to build the bed before you slept. Also, your husband should know better than to go cleaning the traps when the threat of goblin incursion is ever present and his tomb will serve as a reminder to those who place cleanliness over personal safety.

I must also point out that you don't even know the meaning of dire and unimaginable threat. One supposedly exists even know beneath our feet. In the deep deep caverns. They say it is a giant skeletal elephant that breathes fire. If the scenes in the meeting area persist and you bruse the fat of anyone else I will personally appoint you to investigate the truth of this matter.

Yours, the overseer.

I've had some problems when digging deep pits, mostly with injuries to my miners.

Digging it all as up/down staircases and then channelling it used to be fine, even without dumping the resulting stone. I've now ended up loosing miners to injuries, and I'm not even sure *how* they're hurting themselves.

Not even bruses and then suddenly I get a message someone's been found dead. Then later on, another one ends up in bed with her leg fractured in two places.

After experiencing the same thing on an earlier fort, I dumped the stone before ordering the stairs to be channelled out and it still happened.

I'm only channelling one layer at a time, so it can't be a simple fall to the level below. I don't suppose there is a way to get things like collisions to always show up in the combat logs? They do get recorded, but only if the thing has been fighting recently.

My water based design was a pressure plate triggered flow of water to wash things off a narrow ledge. A test firing proved it was very good at washing, but it's far more likely to take out any of my guys who are dumb enough to hang around.

I'm probably going to go back to weapon traps. I was using traps with wooden spiked balls to try and sweep gobbos into a death pit. However these were a bit too lethal, particularly when I stacked 3 or 4 trap weapons into one trap, they were killing goblins and then jamming as a result. I might design a special 'sweeper' trap weapon, with several hits but pitful damage.

Maybe stacking a few training weapons into one trap would do the trick, and save the lethal stuff for the bottom of the pit.