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So far, this mod looks quite amazing.

I only have one gripe: Meteoric Iron.

You have it stated that meteoric iron is a super pure form of iron, which leads me to a touch of confusion: IRL, meteoric iron is an alloy of iron and nickel (as per how it comes from meteorites). Might I suggest that meteoric iron be found in small clusters, as an alloy of nickel and iron, in soil layers, just to give the illusion of meteorites. A good early source of iron, albeit minute.

I am in amazement at everything else. I will refrainf rom using this until it is refurbished for DF2010, though, due to that I am working on a mod of my own and don't want too much distraction.

Now ive learnt to continually check what temperture it is in the water...

How do you do this? I have not known how to determine tepurature of anything in adventure mode until I am blinded by frostbite...

Quote from: Krelos on February 09, 2010, 03:09:23 pm

I modded Mithril into my game.
I made it quite common but very expensive to produce. See, when you smelt the raw ore what you get is an impure Heavy Mithril that's about the same as Iron, though lighter of course. Then when you refine it at the expense of 2 flux and coal, you end up with 1 WAFER of pure Mithril for every 3 Bars of Heavy. Meaning that to make anything, you have to mine 9 times as much as other metals. It's just over half as good as Adamantine but only for armor, in weapons its the same as copper. Mithril can be made into cloth and clothes of course.

wtf weapons and armor as good as copper?! damn ever saw LOTR when the idiot hobbit sat there and watched the Troll stab him with the trident only to survive due to his MITHRIL chainmail? of course that was a mithril alloy shirt.

Not quite, my friend. Even iron, before tempering, is merely somewhat better than that of appropriately tempered bronze. Tempering alters the crystaline structures of metals, which allows the alteration of material properties; thusly, if you want to be super realistic about it, mithril probably would not be able to be much better than well tempered iron.

Keep in mind, mithril is a fantasy material, which allows for fantastic properties, much like that of adamantine (which was fabled to be so strong due to the infusion of diamond-like crystalline structures, in many cultures).

Deon, you made aFaerun mod? Were ther Illithids (mindflayers)? I must see this mod, even if it is from 30c!

1. From my experience, they will attack you if you have attacked a member of the civ (news travels fast?).

2. Throwing is VERY deadly, especially at high skill, and especially if you throw weapons/arrows/bolts, and most markedly: it doesn't de-stealth you.

3. Ambushing is horribly incredible, especially if you use throwing/bow/crossbow. As to where they will see you, depends on how high your skill is.

4. Wrestling is strange. It usually amounts to a lot of grabbing. The only way to gouge eyes reliably is to grab your foe by the head with an empty hand, manually, and manually gouge their eyes with the wrestling menus. Clothing is a little different, for there is a high chance you will grab a foe by an article of clothing. Beware wrestling with animals, for they have no joints, though strangling is almost always an option.

There are two methods for undressing your enemies:
i) When wrestling with an enemy's clothing, press Shift + i (I), which will go into your item manipulation menu, and scroll through until you find the item in red. Select that item, and select "Gain possession".

ii) When wrestling the article of clothing, Move away.


I bid you luck in your adventures, I hope I was of help.

Quote from: Truean on February 04, 2010, 11:26:29 pm

1 "Asbestos filter mask."

How would you get Dwarves to wear it? I've only seen masks on goblins. Would you have to add a preference for them to the Dwarf civ entity raw and even then would you have to draft the Dwarf to get them to wear it?
I don't know a lot about this. Would you have to make it a "helm" or "cap" or whatever to be used in game?

Masks are categorised as a type of helm, with a layering, which does not seem to interfere with helmets or caps. From my experience, this is true. I may be confused about it, though.

The question was posed as to where asbestos-based stones can be found, and so I direct you to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos

As for my "Anyone who is offended by asbestos hurting people is ignorant." statement:

Quote from: Shade-o on January 28, 2010, 08:52:45 pm

Mechanisms made of metal other than Adamantine. Iron, Steel and a few others are sensible for crafting it. In case you were wondering, it requires adding [ANY_USE] to the metal, and a dwarf with Mechanic labour can craft it at a Metalsmith's Forge.

Or you can make a reaction to make them out of bars (and [ANY_USE] has some odd effects, like using it to make clothing).

Code: [Select]

[REACTION:MECHANISM_(metal)]
[NAME:cast (metal) mechanisms]
[SMELTER]
[REAGENT:#:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:(type)]
[PRODUCT:100:1:TRAPPARTS:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:(type)]
[FUEL]

It can be modified to use any other material (I used wood on a heavy aquifer map covered in trees when I needed some pumps), though I question the sanity of someone that uses CLOTH mechanisms.

So, how would one make the reaction encompass ALL metal? The wiki doesn't go into that. I sure hope I wouldn't have to make a different reacton for each metal....

Chert, flint, and obsidian, because all three should have the [SHARP] tag, and do have that tag, as per my modding.