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Originally posted by kaypy:
<STRONG>Oh, I can understand that competely. But for those needing help with the idea, I thought a stripped to the bone method may be easiest. Once they're used to the idea, then they can embellish.</STRONG>

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True. It might be easier to start with something that is simple. But i want to note that when I built this, it was my first time to use pumps or powered mechanisms. So it really isn't that hard to learn.

Making things, even complicated ones, in DF is easy when you know what you want, have couple of graph paper sheets (for planning*) and know how the thingies, you need in your systems, work (the wiki helps with this a lot).

(* and screw that exel tool [apoligies to its creator], I found the paper and pencil much more usefull, and using this method you can plan during gaming without swapping between windows constantly.)

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Originally posted by WomanTheatre (In other Topic):
<STRONG>A shower? Like a mini-waterfall?  Sounds like a cool idea, how does it work exactly?</STRONG>

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Ok, this was asked in other topic, started by Slappy Moose. But since all he said as an answer to this question was "It's not too complicated, it just takes lots of thinking and design to get it to work with your fortress." I decided to make a quide of some kind. Since I found this idea awesome and I made this kind of system into my fort just couple of days ago.

So the system makes water fall throug my fortress zoo entrance hallway. The water comes From small 3x3 reservoir abowe the entrance hallway. The waterfall is 3-tile wide as is my hallway. The water then goes through 3 floor grates directly under the waterfall. Under the hallway there is 6x2+1 tiles wide reservoir. From there water is pumped to 3x3 pool on the same level as the hallway is. And from there the water is pumped to the 3x3 reservoir from where it falls back down again. The system needs to have right amount of water. The water was initiated firslty into the 6x2+1 reservoir. I would say that when the whole reservoir is almost full. (about 6/7 in every tile) the system has enough water for couple od seasons. Then you must let in more water because water turning into mist dissappears.

Now some pics follow. (Thumbnails click them to enlarge)

First: Showin the reservoir under the hallway, and system that lets the water in. (the smaller 3x3 reservoir is for the well [And the explanation for the red dot comes in next pic.])

Pic 2: Shows the hallway without mist. (The pic was taken when system was out of water.) All the explanations should be there in pic. Color of the text allways mathces to the markings in the pic. Eg. If there is purple dots the purple text explains them.

Pic 3: Shows system abowe the hallway. The pump mechanisms draw power from 2 windmills abowe the ground one level up The whole system requires 68 power and my two windmills produce 80. (I have quite windy map )

And the last pic shows the system producing mist after I added more water into the system. (As you can read from the text in the pic, I added bit too much of it this time.)

If anything is unclear, ask. Ant once more thanks for the Slappy Moose for totally awesome idea. This keeps your dwarves clean and also makes them happy.

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Originally posted by ChaosFollowing:
<STRONG>Just don't do what I did...

The Fall of Commontorches</STRONG>

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Off Topic, but. Awesome story you made from that. This is why losing is fun.

 

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Originally posted by Derakon:
<STRONG>Bows are rather stupidly overpowered right now, no matter how realistic they are.</STRONG>

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But nobody (hopefully) wants DF with some fantasy game -hit point system with each critter having healtbar. Like: no matter when the bold goes through your lungs it only does 54 dmg. and you having 234 hp. Or something like that. (I know, in some way there are health and damage values in the game but they are well hidden. Since you cannot see the actual hp amount of your dwarves)

DF is simulator... as much as you can simulate the communal living of imaginary creatures in imaginary world. This means realism.

Thoug.. I would certainly want system in which bows of lower quality and made from weaker materials would have lesser damage. Like low quality bone crossbow shouldn't even penetrate chain armor, but masterpiece steel one would go through any plate when used to shoot decend ammunition.

Erm... Your wells are aboveground? Well thats a broblem. Try going underground, or does aquifer prevent you to do so?

Actually just today one of my dwarves had mood and he needed both stone and cloth. He hauled the 2 microline stones into the workshop and jsut sat there, even though I had pig tail and rope reed cloth. So I built loom, colleted one web, and made one stack of silk cloth, which immediately was claimed by this moody dwarf, and soon after an artifact was made. Yay, legendary stonecrafter (who used to be useless soapper.)