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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 15, 2017, 12:49:33 pm »
May I ask how many of those statues ARE trying to tell you that racism is good?

Just to explain, ISIS is massively iconoclast and think statues of anything is heresy, plus they were trying to erase history.

edit: Partly ninja'd.

And you know... We only want to rewrite history in order to say that the entire south is racist and that the Civil war was completely just with the North as the glorious hallowed heroes. That the racism that the South committed is so systematic that the government, law enforcement, and everyone is now racist because of the south.

That absolutely no one in the South deserves any dignity or sympathy.

Which CLEARLY more accurately fits reality.

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This is why "In the Heat of the Night" is the most racist show EVER depicted.

Because it shows Southern cops in a sympathetic light.

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I dunno... "My Revisionism is better than your revisionism" is an odd statement. Since we aren't talking about statues that are racist...

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 15, 2017, 12:27:30 pm »
May I ask how many of those statues ARE trying to tell you that racism is good?

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 15, 2017, 12:21:16 pm »
Clearly, you have never been to an egyptology exhibit at a museum of world history then.

Just including this quote because I kicked it off the page...

I don't see too many people clambering to set up Isis statues to teach us about the horrors that whole shit show.

Uhh... There are plenty of monuments that do that.

I don't know of many people who like to set up monuments before the problem has either been dealt with or have been going on for a long time.

I don't know many WW2 Memorials that were installed before WW2 ended (except maybe ones that weren't intended as memorials... until after the war)

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 15, 2017, 12:09:31 pm »
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I don't believe there's any obligation to maintain public monuments from a previous time that do not reflect the current values and preferences of the people living in that area

Waaait a minute... isn't this revisionist?

That we should teach history in a way that benefits our current morals and ideals?

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would have no qualms whatsoever about their removal being an attempt to "erase history".

Ohh it is!

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 15, 2017, 12:05:10 pm »
Technically if we are talking about Hate...

Shouldn't we dismantle Mount Rushmore?

Which is the BIGGEST F-U America has ever given the Native Americans... and pretty much is a testament to their subjugation.

Goodness... Would be interesting in 1000 years if the next racists started to flock to Mount Rushmore as a symbol of Native American Oppression... so people are like "We should demolish it! It is racist!"

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 15, 2017, 10:44:17 am »
but a bit of context would not go amiss for why that's a WTF

It is just a really general statement.

I could probably google "I am not saying you're a bad person" and get a few examples it is such a hilariously prolific problem.

But look I am not saying you are a bad person, I am just saying every single thing you do is bad.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 15, 2017, 09:26:12 am »
You know what I am starting to find hilarious?

When someone goes "Now, I am not saying your a bad person" and then goes "But your a bad person"

So here is my #1 Rule for "I am not saying your a bad person": If you NEED to say it, you probably are saying they are a bad person.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 15, 2017, 08:46:07 am »
Fine I'll delete me stuff SMJJAMES below me.

My frustration around finding out the Left are ordinary people... isn't too important.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 15, 2017, 08:11:57 am »
If anything the Democrats would do well to use the ball of hate stored in the ideological left. Which, honestly, if the election was called right now the democrat could win just by calling the Republicans a "hate group" that support Nazis. Just go on and on about how the Right are Nazis and that something should be done about them.

Moderates don't hate everyone enough. You can't spur them on as a hate group as easily as the Liberals and Conservatives.

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General Discussion / Re: Neonivek and Friend's Musings (Bad Ideas Ahoy!)
« on: August 15, 2017, 01:17:28 am »
I really don't like videos that are just compilations of a ton of things that is wrong with a movie and game.

It is mostly because flaws in it of themselves do not make or break them. It is their total overall effect on the product in question and that effect isn't additive or multiplicative... It is context.

Something could have a million flaws and still be great. I mean people love Skyrim and that is just a huge ball of flaws upon flaws.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 15, 2017, 01:01:30 am »
... there are. Also museums and crap! Confed history isn't really much more under attack than christianity is, and most folks wouldn't really have trouble with it if it was just memorializing. Lotta' the stuff floating around ain't just that, though, and celebrating that shit is somethin' a wee titch different.

We have historical records that these ancient artefacts exist too. So no history is being "Erased".

 
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Confed history isn't really much more under attack than christianity is

Yeah because no one lets Antifa walk around tearing down memorials, that would be stupid. Yet that is what is being argued here. That you know, maybe angry mobs should decide this.

I am not against removing statues, especially ones that would advocate hatred. I am against double standards and the mental loops that justify this double standard.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 15, 2017, 12:54:07 am »
http://theconversation.com/erasing-history-why-islamic-state-is-blowing-up-ancient-artefacts-78667

Incase your wondering why I have an issue with a rampant unruly mob of moralistic ideological rioters tearing down historical artifacts and memorials.

Well that and... I dislike how winners tend to trample on the losers. There really SHOULD be Confederate memorials. Sure there are no German Nazi Memorials, but they have WW2 memorials (and not just Holocaust, victim ones) and Germany has often been accused of trying to forget WW2 even happened.

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Personally I don't even think the hatred towards the statues has anything to do with how the symbolism is being misappropriated or even about the war itself. I think it has to do with how it is symbolic of everything this group hates (Which should ALWAYS be a warning sign!).

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WOW! There might be no way to share the rules for Dusk City Outlaws except to go by the honor system.

No wait... Google Doc SEEMS like it works...

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 14, 2017, 10:27:15 pm »
Why is Green Technology so frequently targeted for Pseudoscience and Faulty Science?

No, I don't mean "Solar energy is bunk!"

I mean "This is solar powered, which means it even generates power as it cleans your entire house"

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 14, 2017, 08:36:50 pm »
Because it is using religious iconography... the dead soldier there is Jesus.

It is kind of an Homage of "The Lamentation"

So that woman there would be... Mother Mary

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