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... what part of "I get the sentiment and everything" was so hard to grasp?

The part that came after that. Which made it sound like you didn't get the sentiment?

But I'll take you on your word... I am REALLY exhausted anyhow (not from this thread... from lack of sleep) so as long as I am at least understood I am happy.

Like... I get the sentiment, and everything. But it does strike me that trading a thousand demons and only getting one new one back is a pretty good deal? Reducing your considered demon population by around 99.9% is usually considered fairly successful, I think.

You are taking it too literally.

Look I'll make it easier: Do you want to trade your freedom of expression and Freedom of thought in order to take down Nazis? Do you think a society without those would remain a just society?

They NEED to be dealt with, but these methods will backfire in a spectacular way. I do not condone thought police, I do not condone the moralizing ideological group the free right to hunt dissenters down and prosecute them via mob justice.

When the Nazis go away... This mentality will not... Then what are you stuck with?

Gonna get sleep EVENTUALLY...

But I did take my antidepressant uhhh... 10 hours ago and the intense dizziness stopped.

If your opinion involves shit like "certain people are automatically inferior to me and people I decide are also better than others" or "it's ok to not just discriminate against others based on arbitrary bullshit, it's actually cool to just go ahead and kill them" then given the reaction of the rest of the world the last time people started actually turning those opinions into actions... maybe you should shut your fucking trap unless you're cool with getting popped in the mouth for being not just a nazi, but a fucking stupid one, at that

The Irony is palpable. I actually thought you were condemning the Witch Hunts at first.

@neonivek: What percentage of violent protestors would it need to be called a riot?

I am not sure such a system works.

And I only predicted that the current climate seems to suggest that we are reaching a boiling point to where we are going to have a major riot...

... that looks more like neo's overdosed on something unhealthy, really. Or trying to make some kind of point in something approaching the worst way possible. Can't really tell.

Naw it is meant to be more trivia and a funny quip than a serious argument.

The Slavery situation in the USA is more fueled by
-1) Retributive justice
-2) People generally don't know what goes on in prisons.

Goodness I fell asleep... Thankfully I don't have to do that much damage control.

"Who benefits from mexican de-facto slaves?

It's not us liberals, I tell you that"

Let me see... Liberal Americans believe in Privatization, which includes prisons, which enacts slave labor and many of these slaves are Mexicans.

Or is the American Left no longer part of Raganism?

Or maybe I'll just ignore the crates because it's an option, and just enjoy my single player experience.

Well you can't ignore them... They set them up so they cannot be ignored. You can only just not buy them.

Well ok you will end up buying one or two because they give you enough gold for free as a way to acclimate you towards it...

I get what you're saying on 'thought crime' and free speech and obsessively hunting them out, but that doesn't mean that we should tolerate such things. You only have to look to history to see where that kind of white supremacist ideology leads.

We don't tolerate the hate they spew! That is definitely right.

That is why, for example, they cannot teach it in schools. We don't lend them an ear in the news media the majority of the time. We don't include their philosophy in most reputable texts. We have lobbies and ideological groups that counter theirs.

We don't tolerate when they riot, when they perform terrorism, when they kidnap or hurt others.

But we REALLY need to keep the high ground, not because "We need to be better than them" I am a bit more pragmatic, but because we quickly become monsters when we lose sight... and we are seeing that more and more often... The way we treat the dredges of society is becoming the way we treat dissenters.

Nobody else will do it in this country, so until we can do a good squelching on the burning churches and stuff like what happened in this particular event, it's the only bloody choice you got. Welcome to 'murrica, where after a bout of domestic terrorism the POTUS had some fun dumping responsibility on both sides of the issue, then later gave a half-hearted condolence to the injured and dead closed out with a writing tic habitually used to denigrate political opponents.

In mean time, please, excuse me if I'm not terribly moved by the emotional distress of people who support widespread ethnic cleansing and cheerfully welcome murder.

Remember this mentality will NOT go away just because this particular enemy goes away.

You need more permanent tactics. How can you deal with Neo-Nazis and White Supremists that won't backfire on, just pulling out a random group, Criminal Lawyers?

This is why the same strategies are being adopted as suppression tactics against dissenters.

As for not being distressed... A society that delights in the pain and misery of others, isn't right in the head.

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But really that is it for my opinions for one day... I am sure I am going to be labeled a Nazi lover for a while here for not wanting to walk into random people's homes and murder suspected Nazis... or not liking the pain and misery of others and bathing in the blood of my enemies.