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I think one question that we can ask about fairness in taxation is: to what extent has each person financially benefited from infrastructure spending? And I would consider all public spending in that.

e.g. a boss of a company expects that he can hire a cheap supply of people who can read and write without needing to train people in that. He can also expect that his customers, suppliers etc can read and write. He benefits financially from these things. Plus all the little skills, numeracy, computer skills etc. We see these skills as being universal to the point of being worthless, so you just take them for granted, but they are what societies spend large amounts of money to ensure are universal. And many businesses would be worthless if those skills weren't invested in.

And those costs are not captured in direct trade such as wage labor exchanges. e.g. the more a country spends on teach computer skills, the less it costs to hire someone with those skills. In that sense, clearly training people in computer skills subsidizes all businesses who want to hire people with those skills: more training costs to the state means less costs to businesses, and less pay to the employee who has the trained skills. Clearly, the boss is the big financial winner when we increase training in computer skills, so he's the guy who should be paying the most for it.

Plus, a boss expects he can pay minimum wage and have a steady flow of workers who can afford to get to his business. Not to mention how customers can actually get to your business for cheap so that they can afford your products. That implies subsidized transportation networks, because if you went for a completely user-pays based transport system there's no fucking way people who are paid minimum wage could afford what it costs for their share of the roads to get to work. The worker directly benefits from this (can use the publicly-funded roads and buses to get to work), but it's the boss who disproportionately benefits from this (he gets a financial benefit from each and every worker, and customer, who can use public roads to access his location).

Therefore, there's a case that people who earn a ton of money are actually benefiting from social investment much more than people who are poor: because they're reaping the benefits of everyone in the pyramid below them. Someone who makes a million dollars a year is very unlikely to be personally creating $1 million in value: they are reliant on a large number of lower-down workers who do labor that makes their job possible, and each of those workers was invested in by the taxpayer.


And one step further, all those companies building stuff efficiently for people is what results in everything related to modern life, including any standard of living enjoyed by anyone within the system. Hence, our fancy whatever exists primarily on the back of modern, educated society so it's only far that the burden for that modern society is shared.

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Weight of guns and armor is a very suitable basis for weighting votes. It'd effectively give rural votes the power they need to compete with the urbanites while eliminating the goofiness of swing states.

Why do rural states need a handicap? If they want to have more votes, maybe they need to elect competent leaders to make their own homes livable. There's no innate reason that states should be equal. PEOPLE should be equal.

There's many reasons why people should not be equal, chiefly because farm states would have very little input into the political process otherwise (even worse than under the electoral college). The concerns of smaller regional areas are important, even if they are outnumbered population-wise. There are very good reasons why the Connecticut Compromise is one of the most important events in the construction of the American political system.

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They're shorter than the average world population, reclusive, possessed of strange cultural norms, denial of reality, and with a fondness for earthworks.

I mean, just look at how awesome the infiltration tunnels are, especially with the claim that they're totally coal mines.

North Korea: closest thing around to a dwarven fortress.

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Weight of guns and armor is a very suitable basis for weighting votes. It'd effectively give rural votes the power they need to compete with the urbanites while eliminating the goofiness of swing states.

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Doesn't the Netherlands have laws against sexual harrassment? Maybe try enforcing those?

That's what this new law intends to help them do.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions though.

Not saying that the mayor intends to do bad things, just that what might seem like a good idea, isn't really.

It wouldn't even pass the smell test here in the US because first amendment.

It's been very close to passing SC scrutiny in the US, with the idea that the government is totally competent to decide new categories of non-protected speech (as opposed to the traditional, limited few) based on ad-hoc balancing of "societal value"

The bulwark of the First Amendment is getting to be pretty Maginot looking these days.

I referred to the Maginot Line, so it's totes germane to the thread

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I'm so glad that we don't have to worry about Trump taking part in cronyism or abuses of presidential power.

: p 

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This is why we need immortality, so everyone can actually learn all those things.

That's not really all that long of a list. Decent liberal education with a decent summer jobs could pretty easily check all of those things.

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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

Plan the counter-invasion is certainly a reasonable addition.

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General Discussion / Re: SCP - Secure. Contain. Protect.
« on: November 29, 2016, 04:08:13 pm »
The real ones. The Foundation's golden area is long past.

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General Discussion / Re: SCP - Secure. Contain. Protect.
« on: November 29, 2016, 03:48:27 pm »
SCP's admins drank enough koolade to go off the deep end some time ago.

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Not to mention the killing joke that the Brits won WW2 with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdWGlJrG6sQ

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Very nicely put, Reelya.


In general, your tribe doesn't include the worst actors, while the other guy's tribe includes every tangentially related loonie. 

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I think that the reason news has a liberal bias is that reality has a liberal bias...Factually, conservative points are often wrong.
Damn wrongthinkers. World would be perfect if everyone just listened to the right people.
A man in Saudi Arabia goes to read the news, it is biased towards Saudi Arabia and Sunni Islam, that its journalists are students of Sunni theology and employed by Saudis has nothing to do with it: Reality has a Saudi bias
A man in the PRC goes to read the news, it is biased towards the PRC and communism, that its journalists are students of Marxism and employed by the PRC has nothing to do with it, reality has a PRC bias.
e.t.c., pretty deluded to think reality literally revolves around your biases. Worse still, it's the most hideous smugness exhibited in its purest, which is why liberals are so despised
despised
Liberalism does not demand much of people, yet its adherents manage to find themselves despised for their insufferable smugness
gg gj napoleon rolls in his grave
Excsue me, that's not what I said.

Reality does actually lean left of American center.  Hardcore right (alt-right) is demonstrably wrong on a bunch of points (see: conversion therapy in its entirety, 'trans people are all pervs', LGBTQ somehow bringing down society, climate change not existing, anything that claims trickle-down actually works, 'immigrants are a seedy crimefest', etc..)

Damn wrongthinkers. World would be perfect if everyone just listened to the right people.

I could write a script and post it every few pages and be perfectly on topic. Hardcore righters are perfectly crazy, but so are hardcore lefties. And the lefties do a much better job at getting star chambers implemented these days.

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I think that the reason news has a liberal bias is that reality has a liberal bias...Factually, conservative points are often wrong.

Damn wrongthinkers. World would be perfect if everyone just listened to the right people.

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As long as the Kurds don't become another Israel with their own abused pet.

I wish they would.

Another liberal democracy in the Middle East is definitely positive.
Minus the abused pet of course...  Unless you are implying its worth the price.

It's not a difficult implication to argue for. Every country in the world has their abused minority groups. No matter who ends up getting power in Iraq and Syria, there's going to be at least one of them.

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