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Quote from: Shadowlord on November 14, 2016, 10:05:03 pm

https://twitter.com/lottelydia/status/798211511915319296

I laughed at this. Thank you.

It started almost reasonable, then I just heard the tone of the tweets gets shriller and shriller as I kept reading. I'm unsure if it was intentional or not.

The unclaimed parts they're worried about is mostly Iraq, with chunks of Syria. But yeah, a Kurdish nation-state would probably be a serious threat to Turkey and their semi autonomous Kurdish region.

Iran maybe? I don't know enough about the Kurdish chunks of Iran to speak authoritatively.

Earth observation is pretty obviously a NOAA tasking in all of its form. The only reason it hasn't been there's for a decade is NASA's hyper paranoid and anti-interagency culture.

Like the military refused to attack Vietnam and Iraq for no reason. Soldiers are typically disciplined and often principled, but they don't refuse lawful orders.

More importantly, you're not attacking Mexico, you're saving the Mexican people from rampant cartel massacres and the failed state they live in during this scenario. Learn your justifications for war, it makes everything a lot clearer. The best thing about these kinds of justifications is that they're not even untrue, you are helping. It's just not the full truth.

I don't think America at large dedicating itself to world conquest is at all a realistic scenario, but if we were going to do it these details are how it would be done. I'm just playing armchair geopolitics here, but what I wrote is almost certainly similar to whatever war plans the Pentagon keeps on "if we need to invade Mexico", and if it isn't it's because they thought of something even more clever I didn't realize.

Thunder run through Juarez sounds pretty cool, actually.

There's an obvious difference between a Jew and a Nazi.

Jews:
1. Defined by religion or race.
2. Aren't intolerant and hateful.
3. Minority with discrimination against them, as well as being on the receiving the usual racist stuff. Big-nosed bankers and shit.
4. History of being exterminated by Nazis by the millions.

Nazis:

1. Defined by belief in a political ideology that supports fascism, nationalism, and racism.
2. Intolerant and hateful.
3. Have discriminated against Jews.
4. Have exterminated Jews by the millions.

And what "discrimination" against a Nazi would exist? Perhaps the Nazi wouldn't get a job if they wore their swastikas on their sleeves? That's acceptable - it's a hate symbol. If I walk around tooting a horn and shouting "Down with the Evil Jews," it's okay if nobody hires me (though it's not okay if I am censored). That's completely different from discrimination based on race, religion, sexuality, gender, etc.

Remember folks, there's a clear and different standard between goodthink and badthink, as determined by the passions of the day.

Speaking of shifting the blame, some people (well, at least one person anyway) are trying to blame the third party vote for the loss..

Which, I really don't agree with. For one, blaming it on third parties completely ignores everything else that went wrong. The third party vote is merely a symptom and a warning sign, had the Democrats or Clinton done things differently, then the Republicans would be the ones complaining about the third party vote.

Yep. I love that we're now into the "only if" stage of the election. If only Johnson voters in Florida had broke fifty fifty and Stien voters had all gone for Clinton. Well, next time maybe the Democrats should think about appealing to them? At the end of the day, we had an election and the election came up Trump.

Two years is also plenty of time for cooler and more rational heads to prevail, but then it's also plenty of time for Trump and the Republicans to do things that alienate the liberals even more.

Or hell, it might be useable as a threat to get things to change.

We-lllll, ispil does have a point, we'd be utterly without a navy and army from the start unless California based military defect to us or something, but that isn't going to happen.

Besides, seems more useful for leverage and to say 'we are HELLISHLY NOT HAPPY!'

I dunno, maybe if they offered, the guys stuck at the national training center would turn traitor to get out of the desert faster