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I love XCom Apoc, the things I hated were that it was rushed and had crappy Artwork.

I liked the Pauseable Real Time and the politics of corporations (though that was woefully cut short as well). The overall plot was weak but I didn't have a problem with finding last alien, especially as motion scanner worked easily in real-time, aliens would panic and try and escape the map and if only stationary aliens are left mission completes so you don't have to hunt down the last chyrsalis.

Gameplay was fun and the physics was interesting which allowed you to demolish buildings instead of searching them and the vehicle combat was fun as well, although overall the game is fairly easy, especially on real-time, although for a more fun playing experience the game needs to be modded, Roadwar is a great mod which has some fixes, and makes roads indestructible which actually makes using ground-vehicles feasible, also I mod the projectiles because in real-time it's easy to dodge many of the projectiles so I make most of them a lot faster, that way it's harder to dodge the spitter attacks and sniper rifle is actually useful in realtime on enemies not coming directly towards shooter.

Overall it's a great game

Hell, new-X-COM cuts the maximum group size down to 4-6 soldiers and it's still beatable even on Ironman Impossible. Try beating all your missions in original X-COM with 4-6 operators; you're going to get massively fucked up even if they're all super-psyker cheesily-trained colonels with heavy plas, flying suits, and blaster launchers.

To be honest 4-6 rookies/squaddies in your first few missions will be disastrous but end game 4-6 guys can win most missions even without psi and blaster launchers. Psi is overpowered though and I only use it to screen troops, never to panic/MC aliens. Blaster Launchers are similar though I bring em along sometimes just to end missions more quickly but I don't use them for Cydonia.

Old XCom is fairly forgiving when you make mistakes as well because soldiers are more expendable and you can actually place meatshields infront of your valuable soldiers (I call it nature's kevlar), though losing a commander or colonels can cause tantrum spirals. New XCOM you misplace one move and you can fuck up your whole squad and soldiers are more important in new XCOM because they need training to even make good use of weapons.

That being said XCom on Superhuman mode can be pretty brutal, I got my base invaded like 5 times in February, sure it was just sectoids and cyberdisks but it was always risky especially with the crappy base layout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDkoj932YFo&feature=player_detailpage#t=368s

I used to think katana's were just showy but they work just as well vs metal as longswords even better overall, though hammers would beat both unless your aiming for joints in armour to poke.

Sorry, but I know he got nerfed. Not what I was asking. I was asking, how can you possibly come close to beating a good Olaf?

Well it's hard to beat a good anyone, in the mid-game Olaf works on hunting the squishy's and with his CC immunity ulti it means he can normally get to them, however there are ways around it but really it relies on good teamwork, Olaf is a tanky beast but you can use his CC-immunity against him by AoE CC (Frozen Gauntlet useful for ADC for this) on rest of the team while moving back leaving more distance between Olaf and them.

For an ADC it's sometimes better after you have used your escapes and Olaf is still on you to just stand your ground and try and lifesteal back your way, it will take longer for him to kill you and hopefully buy you time for your team to kill him alternativley just ignore him from the start and focus on whoever has the least armour to get more lifesteal easily. If your AP carry in the teamfight and Olaf targets you then its best just to try and use all your abilities before you die if your a squishy AoE caster

Olaf got nerfed hard but he did need it a bit.

Sion looks more powerful now and his health gain ability is even more useful now that health is more expensive.

So blitz flash pull fixed, but what about Blitz+Thresh Lantern pull???

I guess the real difference would be between the arbitrary one item per soldier limit, and the arbitrary eighty items per Skyranger limit. And the items we have now would be way overpowered if you could carry more of them, so you'd need to seriously rebalance the whole game. But I admit it could have worked.

It wasn't arbitrary, there was a reason and that was due to memory management. UFO: EU was made a long time ago a time where memory was scarce, there was only so much memory you could have on a map, there was something silly like in base defence missions where if you had so many guys and so many items that aliens spawned without items.

Also if your soldier got more then 255 in a skill it would then go to 0 on skill increase.