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General Discussion / Re: Nuclear fusion
« on: June 17, 2009, 03:46:21 pm »
Actually, scientists have had working fusion reactors for quite a while now.
The issue is that none of them have managed to produce more energy than they require to contain the fusion.

I have read that there are two main methods being used, a doughnut suspended magnetically, and hundreds of lasers from all sides. I have also read that some small Canadian group is trying to make a fusion reactor based on pressure waves rather than lasers, since it would be much less expensive.

I did a little digging and found it on the internet.

Ya, I mentioned both. The magnetic confinement in a torus is the russian "Tokamak" design, whereas lasers are another possibility.

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General Discussion / Re: Nuclear fusion
« on: June 17, 2009, 08:07:14 am »
Why are you talking about launching shit into space? who mentioned it? there's plenty of space here on earth ;)

Especially now that we're starting to produce second generation panels.

Albedo.

The Earth gets about 1% of the sun's total radiance. More than 50% of that is reflected by the atmosphere. As a result, you actually get waaaay more power if you have a sattelite up in orbit to collect solar energy and beam it down.

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General Discussion / Re: Nuclear fusion
« on: June 17, 2009, 05:03:40 am »
Helium-4 is just regular helium like you find in balloons and little kids suck to make their voices sound like mickey mouse.

Not neccessarily, helium 3 and helium 4 are both stable. However when travelling at high speeds it's known as alpha radiation.

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General Discussion / Re: Nuclear fusion
« on: June 17, 2009, 04:20:40 am »
We already have fusion reactors we just don't get enough energy out of them to make them worth while.

Right, which is the main problem here: Which one of those designs would actually be worthwhile to spend millions of dollars on?

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General Discussion / Re: Nuclear fusion
« on: June 17, 2009, 04:03:43 am »
To understand fusion you have to understand fission.

Regular nuclear power is provided by fissile materials such as uranium. When struck by a high energy particle, this happens:



Basically when a neutron strikes a uranium nucleus, this causes the nucleus to split into it's component parts: protons, neutrons, and electrons. The protons and neutrons dissipate, whereas the neutrons continue on to strike other uranium nuclei, causing further reactions. This is a nuclear fission chain reaction.

Why is this useful for creating power? Because every time you split a uranium atom, a bit of heat and light is produced (mostly heat). When you have hundreds upon thousands upon hundreds of thousands of uranium nuclei splitting, you can produce a pretty damn good amount of power. This is transferred into a water pipe running through the system which turns the water into steam, which is under high pressure, and is then used to drive a turbine which drives an electric generator, producing power.

If you have enough uranium and strike it with a neutron, then one atom will split, producing more neutrons, which will then make it's neighbors split, who will make THEIR neighbors split... This is why it is referred to as a chain reaction, as one atom splitting will send a wave of splitting atoms across the whole material until there are no uranium atoms left.

A nuclear bomb uses this principle to build up a massive amount of heat and pressure from a completely uncontrolled nuclear chain reaction inside a heavy metal casing, until said casing ruptures and detonates.

In a regular nuclear reactor, the reactor itself would become so hot it would melt through it's own containment and into the ground (a "meltdown"), not explode. It's functionally impossible for a nuclear reactor to become an atom bomb.

A runaway fissile reaction is dangerous, but there are multiple methods to control it, the main one being control rods. These are inserted into the fissile material to slow down or even stop the reaction, and are used to prevent it from becoming a runaway one. If handled improperly, however, as it was at Chernobyl, a meltdown situation could occur. Chernobyl was mainly an issue with the reaction containment rupturing along with the coolant towers, releasing radioactive material over a wide area. It wasn't a nuclear blast, it was a meltdown.

Now, I've covered fission, so why is that important? Well, fusion is the same deal, except instead of splitting the atom, we're joining two atoms together.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Deuterium-tritium_fusion.svg

You can do this in a variety of ways, but the most economical is probably the method pictured above - a fusion of two different hydrogen isotopes, deuterium and tritium (hydrogen-2 and hydrogen-3, respectively) to create a stable element, helium-4. This produces one extra neutron and a small amount of heat and light.

Why is this so important? Well, a number of reasons.

1. Each individual fusion reaction produces about quadruple (IIRC) the energy of a single fusion reaction. This means you can get four times the power with fusion.
2. There is no possibility of a runaway fusion reaction, for reasons I am going to cover in a moment.
3. It produces helium-4, which to my knowledge is not unstable, will not decay, and is not considered nuclear waste.
4. No pollution whatsoever, as helium-4 is not a greenhouse gas.
5. Highly economical. The only materials you need once the reactor is built are deuterium and tritum, both of which are easy to get one's hands on (the oceans are FULL of hydrogen)
6. The only radiation it produces is alpha radiation (which is, in actual fact, a helium-4 molecule moving at a high rate of speed) which is so weak it can be easily stopped by a piece of paper.

Why is there no possibility of a runaway fusion reaction?

Because fusion reactions are not chain reactions.

Splitting a uranium atom will cause all of it's neighbors to split. However, fusing deuterium and tritium will not cause other deuterium and tritium to fuse. This means you don't need control rods or mechanisms of any sort - you just have to turn off the device, and the reactions will stop themselves, without any need for additional input. It's not a chain reaction, thus, it can't meltdown unless somebody leans on the "ON" switch for a few hours.

If it's so good and clean and simple, why are we not using it already?

Because... well, as one researcher put it "We're going to put the sun in a box. However, we don't know how to build the box."

Basically the problem is this. It takes a LOT of energy to force deuterium and tritium to fuse. The best way to do this is to smash them into each other as hard as possible (think a particle accelerator). However, doing just one collision will not cut it. You need to smash a huge amount of them together all at once and then find some way to keep doing it over and over and over and use the resultant heat for power generation.

The good news? Deuterium and tritium can be accelerated, and then controlled, by magnetic fields. This means that we already know the principles that will allow us to make the box.

The bad news? A fusion reactor takes a LOOONG time to build, and is very expensive. And we're still not sure which of the many methods proposed will give us the most benefit, so we have to build them all to see which one works the best.

The main reason we don't know how to make the box is, well, we don't know which of these will give us the best bang for our buck or even cost effectiveness (as in we need to produce enough power for the thing to be worthwhile). There are all sorts of proposed designs that nobody has ever tested:



The Tokamak, a russion design that is basically a large particle accelerator arranged in a torus (doughnut) shape? (This one seems like the most likely)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/NOVA_laser.jpg (It's a URL as it's a large image)

Instead of magnetic confinement, could we use lasers?



Or hell, maybe we could use this old thing from the 1960s. Who knows? Not me.


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Curses / Re: CCS Combat
« on: June 11, 2009, 05:46:15 am »
Medics are ESSENTIAL.

If you can, build up some disposable income, get someone who's good at first aid, and have them train everyone in first aid (street survival). Having a six man squad, all of which know first aid to some degree, MASSIVELY improves survivability and combat efficiency.

There's a percentage chance per liberal (excepting the wounded liberal) per wounded person of stopping the bleeding from a wound. The percentage chance fluctuates depending on how good they are at First Aid. Even the crappiest First Aid giver has a chance to stabilize someone who's Near Death and bleeding out. So with five liberals all of which know First Aid to some extent, you get five seperate chances per turn to stop the bleeding regardless of what you're doing.

Such is my understanding anyway.

You will suffer MUCH less manpower loss due to wounds with at least one (preferably at least two) medics in your squad. Being able to stabilize wounds means that liberals can keep fighting for far longer than they would be able to normally, and even when unable to fire due to being too wounded, they can still get away and recover back at base. (Oh, no more long trips to the hospital either - just have someone tend to them back at base!)

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penguin do your job

WE DEMAND FREE ENTERTAINMENT REGARDLESS OF THE INCONVENIENCES IT MAY IMPOSE UPON YOUR LIFE!!

Okay, seriously, lay off the guy. He'll get back to it when he gets back to it.

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Sorry. Had personal issues that prevented forum access for a while. I'm back.

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Yell around the corner "FRIENDLIES, COMING OUT! DON'T SHOOT!" before emerging to prevent friendly fire. Then go join up with the shooter, while providing supporting fire.

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Hey, guess what wehtamjd, I've now got a friend in my RTD. Do you ask if you can get a skill for shoving sharp objects up opponents bottoms? If so, PoH, I feel your pain.

I am reminded, disturbingly, of FATAL.

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One does not SHOOT a HARMLESS PERSON.

When someone COLLAPSES TO THE GROUND, you STOP SHOOTING.

STOPPING an assailant does not mean KILLING him. It means STOPPING HIM. Once he is STOPPED from causing harm, you stop too.

It's people like this that give responsible gun owners a really, really bad name.

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Blow the northern wall - keep up the fire on the door! Prepare to fall back! Weapons free, grenade at will!

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Uganda responds:

"Thank you for responding. We shall take your point of view into account. However, Uganda's official position remains unchanged. We ask you to consider putting actions against North Korean shipping on hold while the UNSC goes through deliberations."

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Uganda hereby proposes:

Resolution 8A. An apology will be made by the UNSC directly to North Korea for condemning their space program. Should the North Korean government later fail to honor the agreement, sanctions will follow.
Uganda hereby supports this resolution and wishes it to be voted upon.
Resolution 8B. Limited sanctions shall be imposed upon South Korea in an attempt to resolve the current crisis. Diplomatic attempts will be made to attempt to prevent South Korea from conducting any sort of search and seizure of NK ships. A joint statement of condemnation should be issued to the South Koreans by all signatories.
Uganda hereby supports this resolution and wishes it to be voted upon.

Uganda also publically requests that the US and China begin their own diplomatic attempts with North Korea. "I realize this may seem like an unpopular choice - bowing to the wishes of a dictator - but the fact is right now we cannot afford another Korean war. The results would be disastrous. Peace must be maintained, and to do that, we must make a deal with the devil, so to speak - even if it is only temporary. The nuclear weapons point may be resolved once this current crisis is sorted out. I urge all UNSC members to immediately begin talks with South Korea and attempt to get them to cease their provocative actions."

To this end, Uganda issues another statement condemning South Korea:

"Uganda calls for South Korea to immediately back out of this provocative agreement and cease all provocative moves towards the North Koreans. Peace in the region must be maintained and to that end Uganda is extremely dissapointed in South Korea's unilateral, foolish action. Uganda will push hard to make sure there are consequences should South Korea attempt to go on with this."

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Uganda's representative ponders the Mexican rep's words for a full minute, then finally regards him. "... It's with a heavy heart that I must admit you are right. I don't think the NK are going to back down. Perhaps we should refocus our efforts upon the South Koreans."

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