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I've already got a dry moat... it'd be a lot more impressive full of magma...

Ok, I'm sold!  Now to get the materials together.  I'll build the stack first, then the generators.  Figuring out how to pull the magma up past the forges without flooding them or leaving them unpowered should be an interesting challenge.  Either I'll get it to work... or I'll have a magma filled fortress! 

They've been doing this for well over a year.  bout 14 months back I was accused of having pirated a game I couldn't even stand the _reviews_ for.  They said they'd turn my Internet connection back on if I signed a confession...

  I just told them they'd turn the connection I was paying for back on right then or they could discuss their evidence with my lawyer in the morning.  I was back online 15 minutes later.

Simple fact is, they can't PROVE it was you without seizing your hardware, and even then they'd better actually find the data on the drive.  Why is this necessary? because MAC and IP addressing can be spoofed, or private networks hacked.  At which point I am not culpable under U.S. law for what someone else did as they were effectively stealing my network usage.

In short it's a lot of bluff, bluster, and just a hint of real threat.  Unless you're running a software bootlegging operation they're unlikely to actually attempt to acquire evidence.  You can trust me on that regard, since they have PLENTY of reasons to want a thorough look through my computer.

Maybe, but it's the first potential bug I've seen that works in my favor instead of screwing me over.  Which would put it high on Toady's list to fix as opposed to the others, I guess.

interesting... in that case I could have made the things outta bronze, or copper and saved a lotta work.  I'll chalk it up for the next stack I have to build.

I'm more disgusted by my military's inability to wear iron boots, personally.  I'd like to see the current flaws in the inventory/uniform system ironed out before Toady goes making it any more complicated.

Course, I think the game could use a LOT of cleaning up in general.

well it was a nice go, but the fort is dead, raiders arrived just as I was starting to get my steel weapons handed out and before I'd even started on the armor.  Doesn't help that my military still doesn't _train_.  Really getting tempted to just push the magma flows up to the surface and glass everything.

Might have been a different fight if my marksdwarves had bothered showing up.  mobilized and stationed them at the bridge, never saw any of them.  Sleazy little ballbiters.

Ok, so I've ducked, dodged, and sidestepped the fort killers (bugs) so far and have acquired a magma pool.  Just a few questions about utilizing it before I incinerate my fort...

1.  I'm going to need to bring it up 8 Z-levels which means a pumpstack...
  If I pull just from the surface of the magma will it replenish (I also have to push it across half the map once I get it above the cavern systems)  or do I need to drop down a level or two below the surface of the magma?
  We're talking about a LOT of steel if I have to use metal, and don't have access to Bauxite or significant glass.  Suggested materials other than Steel so I don't have to delay my military industrial complex any further?
  And lastly this pumpstack is going to need 80 power units and I have no idea where I'm gonna get that 12 Z-levels down and no where near moving water.

2.  Once I've gotten it in place will it cool if I turn the pumpstack off?  I don't want obsidian, I want magma forges.
  If I don't turn the pumpstack off and the magma doesn't replenish... then what?

As you can probably tell, I get by without massive engineering projects in most of my forts.  Such has usually been the death of my fort as the liquid dynamics never seem to work the way I think they will...