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Rose gold is made with gold and copper, not lead.

Why you'd use lead in that alloy, or how it would result in pinkish-colored gold is beyond me.

You can, of course, use the lead to make lay pewter, but that stuff is horrible and requires you to waste a bunch of copper and tin.

I like the idea of some expanded mechanics, but there's a limit. After all, the game isn't exactly designed with dwarven *computing* in mind...

This suggestion would require Toady to essentially keep a second version of the game hidden within the first. Hell, in addition to different map and creature parameters, there would also be issues with older game features, like the older channels and farming, and lack of newer things.

I honestly don't see it as being plausible to do that. He'd have to maintain two completely different versions of the game at a time.

Nobody knows how elves harvest wood, is the thing. All we know is that they use wood but don't kill trees.

In addition to harvesting dead wood, they could also do something like pruning trees in a sustainable manner which doesn't kill them. Point is, we have no clue.

Haha, whoops, I forgot to upload this. Thanks for reminding me.

I still have the save lying around, and I don't *think* I modded anything, but I'll try to be on the safe side.

I have to get going right now, but I should be able to get it up within a couple days.

Um...Gflex, for awhile I've been mentioning how we would still be capable of stripping away levels to view stuff (e.g. Xcom); another option could be to do like Age of Empires 2 did and have outlines of stuff occluded by walls/trees/etc.

It doesn't matter if you can strip away levels if objects on the same level can have varying "height" to them. Unless every tile image  lies flat on the tile, it will be a problem.

Again, I refer you to that image. The mountain tiles can be on the same level as flat tiles. However, if the mountain tiles surround another tile on that same level, the surrounded tile will be occluded by the mountains. They exist on the same level of the map, so it doesn't matter which layers you do or don't strip away.

On that subject, it would be nice to see different animals having different capacity for training/taming by different sentient creatures. For instance, I can see elves training many more animals than dwarves, but dwarves being able to train animals that elves can't, like certain cave critters.

As far as the military is concerned, it would definitely be nice to see armor/weapon racks put to use similarly to boxes and bags, with some sort of squad/individual ownership.

Do you think any changes will be made that cause military dwarves to clean up after themselves a bit more? I seem to remember them leaving their old shoes all over the place...

Quote from: G-Flex on October 13, 2008, 02:42:50 pm

Plants feeling pain? I feel like nobody should even have to argue against that.
Pain is a specific neurological response.

Neurological.

Plants don't have neurology. They cannot, by definition, have pain, or thought.
Why is this difficult for anyone to comprehend?

Also, what sort of evolutionary impetus (or even advantage) would a plant have to know it's in danger? It doesn't help the plant. The plant can't even move or otherwise react to defend itself. Sure, carnivorous plants will respond to things by making simple movements sometimes, but that's based on other, relatively simple mechanisms (trigger hairs and such).

Plants certainly respond in a coordinated way to injury stimuli*.  The mechanism by which it happens is certainly different, but that doesn't mean they neccessarily don't feel pain.

*For example, by producing more pesticidal compounds.

Define "feel pain". Feeling is neurological. It's limited to animals. You're anthropomorphizing plants too much.

For instance, a complicated machine made by humans right now can be made to detect when it's in trouble and react accordingly. This is the response it has; pain is not part of it. Same goes for plants.