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supporting oppressive governments like ... Israel ...

WTF?  Israel is the most [classical] liberal democracy in the Middle East, and were it not for Iraq the only democracy.  Despite suffering constant attacks from Palestinians Israeli citizens enjoy unprecedented civil liberties, both for a people at war and for a people of the Middle East.  Whatever liberty interests you, be it religious freedom, gay rights, women's rights, economic freedom, or the right to vote Israel is the only country in the Middle East that covers it all.  And they preserve all these liberties unapologetically under a constant rain of shrapnel from artillery shells and suicide bombers courtesy of their age-old foe the Palestinians.

If you think Israel is oppressive you have been inside the West Bank.

Waterboarding does no permanent physical harm and causes neither "pain" in the classic sense nor lingering ill effects.  Most damaging to your case though is that terrorists can end their coercion at any time by simply telling what they know.  That doesn't rise to the legal definition of "torture", at least not in this neck of the woods.

Jude, the Southern States where hands down some of the largest money makers in the union at the time. The only reason the north even won that war was  the fact that the Norths Naval Superiority allowed them to blockade southern ports, and that the European powers where too busy to jump at the chance to defend their cotton supplys and fracture the US.

The revolutionary war was absolutely started by America. I don't want to have to repeat American History class for everyone, but suffice to say, taxes and the "Boston Massacre" don't really count as an attack on our soil. That's of course discounting the fact it technicly was Britains soil at the time.

As for the South not doing anything for America today, that's just blatant ignorance.

When you have a Wasp nest outside your house, and you are stung by wasps. Do you decide to just hang back and slap the wasps as they come, or do you attack them at thier source?

I don't know about you, but I'd prefer a military that targets and attacks threats before we've got enemy forces on our shores.

Oh?  So we weren't defending our country by fighting the axis powers, who had already bombed us and threatened to take us over anyway if they weren't stopped overseas?

We weren't defending our country when we entered (and helped to break the stalemate) of WWI when the Zimmermen note was intercepted?

We weren't defending our country when trying to track down terrorist groups in the middle east?

So please, stop raining on Strife's parade.

In my opinion, Huxley's Brave New World is far more relevant to us today than 1984. Especially if you're American or a member of most capitalist modern societies.

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The people who remain employed during a recession are people who have worked to become irreplaceable (or just aren't replaceable enough at the moment to make the loss of productivity and efficacy worth firing them).

I believe that people should do whatever makes them happy.