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Quote from: Siquo on February 11, 2010, 03:51:11 am

Quote from: Jude on February 10, 2010, 07:58:23 pm

Hope you enjoy having your entire life and self owned by a huge, faceless institution that doesn't give a fuck whether you die or live

That sounds either like being in school or working for a company.

And the Government, and some Religions, and even several schools of popular thought...

Nah, none of those things can own you to the extent the military does. Religions MAYBE, but you can leave if you want, and aside from the wacko cults, they're only that abusive when the religion is ALSO the military.

Just splitting hairs

Hope you enjoy having your entire life and self owned by a huge, faceless institution that doesn't give a fuck whether you die or live

I suicided my last fort. It was glorious. 20-some immigrants were recruited into the magma-death room and died in one fell swoop; from then on I was short on pumping labor (I needed all 5 of my pumps manned...er, dwarfed at once since I didn't bother setting up a power source) so I just used the drawbridge over the lava to whack dwarves whenever I could. Tantrums, several melancholies and a berserk ensued. Eventually I had just 2 melancholies and one pissed but functional dwarf. The melancholies suicided, and I managed to get the last guy to pull the drawbridge lever and then stand on it (it was the meeting zone) just before it opened.

My new fort is an Atlas Shrugged-type challenge. The starting seven will go it by themselves, creating a paradise on the top of a rugged mountain far from their civilization. All immigrants will be deathtrapped (unless one shows up with a particularly interesting skill set, in which case he will  be allowed to join) and caravans will be traded with at first (since commerce is a respectable skill....and I need an anvil....but the goal is self sufficiency.) Each dwarf will design and build their own palace and they'll work together for necessities of life, common areas, defenses and so on.

I used the feature finder to find a 6x6, mountain biome with a little bit of badlands (luckily, there's sand there), a brook, magma pipe, bottomless pit, circus, and flux. Happily, I arrived to find many copper and hematite veins just poking out of the ground waiting to be dug, so the ore industry will be booming and many a suit of fine armor will be forged.

I may do a mountaintop fortress, or I may dig into the bottomless pit and build a glass tower inside it, then flood the whole thing.

And I just realized - although I want to train them all in combat, I have to watch closely and make sure they don't get Elite status so they can still work! None of them will be able to be that good of fighters.

Yeah, because there were problems with cliffs and stuff moving around in worldgen.

From the devlog, it looks like 0.27.176.38c was the last version with flat cliffs.

Yeah, that's the first version I ever played and I remember having cliffs back in my very early days.

Only you can find out and report on what happens.

Oh man I didn't know objects were THAT much of a drag on processing speed. I'll really have to start getting atom smashers in all my forts and quit doing aboveground construction until I have a better computer, since apparently even rock blocks that are constructed still count as objects.

Which makes it even more amazing that people have completed some of the megaprojects they have without giving up out of frustration.

New animals respawn from time to time, but I've heard that if you hunt enough, eventually they'll stop respawning. Never seen it happen myself though, or heard it as more than a rumor, so I don't know.

And I'm pretty sure even if it is true now, it won't be in the new release.