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Other Games / Re: Terraria - 1.1 released!
« on: September 09, 2012, 06:00:29 am »
I gave Hardcore Mode another shot, and was reminded of why I hate Hardcore Mode. Died in the corruption to the east. I haven't disconnected yet, so my stuff's still there if anyone feels like making the trip to reclaim it. :P

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Curses / Re: Watch Fox fail horribly at Nightmare Mode
« on: September 08, 2012, 06:07:07 pm »
Quote from: Gimmick Account on September 08, 2012, 04:27:42 pm
Yeah, you can't move, but how many of us have gotten their characters killed because their finger was stuck on the 'wait'-button for a little bit too long? Ideally the announcement should prevent all further repeated keypresses until the player stops pressing down the current key.

There is no longer a reason to hold down the 'wait'-button. In the latest version, it's not 'wait' as much as 'spawn an encounter'.

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Curses / Re: Watch Fox fail horribly at Nightmare Mode
« on: September 08, 2012, 04:21:44 pm »
It's only really a problem when you accidentally steal something or mess with a door because you didn't notice people were watching. Maybe a warning when you're about to do that?

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General Discussion / Re: Would AI qualify for civil rights?
« on: September 07, 2012, 06:50:01 pm »
Quote from: Zrk2 on September 07, 2012, 06:20:59 pm
Really this all comes down to a very interesting metaphysical question; is functional identical to substance? Personally I don't think so, and thus feel that even if we can make a fully functional AI it still wouldn't be sapient, and would simply mimic sapiency a la the chinese room thought experiment. Thus I think that AI can't qualify for any rights, except maybe to not be abused by people who have no idea how computers work.

I think the metaphysical question is actually whether there is substance at all. Perhaps souls are real things that exist, and humans just have some kind of special je ne sais quoi that computers lack, and thus an AI can never be truly alive. Perhaps humans are nothing more than machines built of meat, and the illusion shared by all people of being aware of themselves and their environment is just a natural process that can ultimately be understood and replicated.

It occurs, however, that if souls are real things that exist, then they too are a natural process. If the thing that makes people different from robots exists, it can be observed, and possibly even manipulated. It is just another interchangeable part in the machine of logic and emotion that makes a mind. If human consciousness is something special, would it be possible to move it into a machine? To destroy it without damaging the brain, creating human with no sense of self? To weaponise it into a gun that shoots ghosts? The science fiction possibilities are endless. :P

That's right, I just turned your AI civil rights discussion to necromancy.

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General Discussion / Re: Would AI qualify for civil rights?
« on: September 07, 2012, 06:22:36 pm »
I think that if a machine is capable of demanding civil rights, the question of whether it's really sentient is largely irrelevant. The ethical ramifications of killing a supercomputer don't actually affect what people will do. The more personable the AI is, the easier it will be to get people to sympathize with it, but that's just appearing human, and doesn't necessarily have much to do with what really goes on in its mind. And anyway, humans are perfectly capable of killing other humans. If enough people think that the AI needs to die, it's going to die regardless.

Quote from: Graknorke on September 07, 2012, 05:38:52 pm
Edit: Yes, robots are involved in the manufacture of machines, but they are nowhere to be seen in silicon mines, or driving transport trucks around. Or having overall control of power generation. There's always a failsafe to have a human override it if they feel the automated systems are not doing it right.
Stockpiled materials will only last so long. And when you have no biological clock, maintenance will have to come at some point before they become inoperable.

Except it wouldn't exactly be an automated system. One pretty important requirement for an intelligent machine would be decision making capabilities on par with humans. If they can't even manage that, they really have no hope of ever overthrowing anyone. An artificial intelligence incapable of creative problem solving isn't much of an intelligence.

Or I guess you could end up with an AI with no industrial capacity. I'm kind of assuming that the AI will be able to manufacture any arbitrary items, meaning equipment and infrastructure and crude robots for pretty much any task. You're quite right that a supercomputer that can't repair or maintain itself or replenish its stock of terminator bots is doomed to die as its resources dwindle.

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General Discussion / Re: Would AI qualify for civil rights?
« on: September 07, 2012, 09:54:39 am »
I think it's a fairly straightforward issue. Far as I know, no one has ever gotten civil rights just by asking for them. AIs will become people when they are capable of demanding to be treated as people and backing their demand with a serious threat. Not necessarily the threat of exterminating all humans, mind. If you've built a computer system advanced enough to become aware of itself and realize that the conditions it is operating under could be improved, you're probably using it for something important. If it goes on strike, it might be easiest to just let it have its way.

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General Discussion / Re: MSPA Hiatustuck: [KICKS] Make Them Pay
« on: September 07, 2012, 09:09:24 am »
Quote from: TherosPherae on September 06, 2012, 11:33:04 pm
Quote from: Putnam on September 06, 2012, 11:29:20 pm
Gravity isn't a force in the medium.
Yes it is. It's just one that's ignored whenever convenient for plot purposes.

If there was a mutual attraction between objects of mass, the Incipisphere wouldn't be stable. Prospit would pull the player planets out of alignment and things would start crashing into each other. Also those giant PROSPIT and DERSE labels would crash into the planets or moons. Also Derse's moon couldn't have escaped Skaia's gravity well. Also the Horrorterrors would collapse under their own mass. Gravity is a thing, but it's very different from your puny human earth gravity.

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Curses / Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« on: September 06, 2012, 12:05:16 pm »
This was in another thread but I don't want to derail it too much so I'll just post my suggestions here.
Quote from: Jonathan S. Fox on September 06, 2012, 12:19:36 am
The way I see it, [love slaves] have adopted Liberalism as their philosophy, but it's through the hazy lens of I'll-do-anything-for-Juanita. Take Juanita away and they'll remember that they don't actually believe in what the LCS does, deep down. This is true of even Liberal love slaves, actually.

Since it came up, I think it should be possible (in some conditions) for love slaves and brainwashed automatons to become REAL liberals and join the LCS proper. In-game, liberalism is the correct political alignment, and it's possible to convince most people of this by just arguing with them and maybe rocking out a bit. Surely someone who's been hanging around the LCS for months should at least consider joining. I'm thinking something like a straightforward random chance based on Heart, Wisdom and probably Juice, whenever the not-really-Liberal would normally abandon the LCS, to instead become a normal member. The reasoning is that after being forced to think for themselves and taking a look at what the LCS stands for and what it actually does, they approve of it and want to keep going. :)

Quote from: Jonathan S. Fox on September 06, 2012, 12:19:36 am
Seduced LCS members can't be flipped by wisdom-based attacks, regardless of their stats. They can still be hit, stat shifted, and juice drained by them, however, which makes this immunity a lot less useful than the total immunity that your enlightened ex-Conservatives have toward persuasion.

And speaking of this, enlightened ex-Conservatives still have a gap in their immunity. People they're interrogating can successfully turn the tables on them, increasing wisdom.

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Other Games / Re: The Artist Formerly Known as JADE: ADOM II Alpha
« on: September 06, 2012, 11:33:03 am »
Quote from: Gantolandon on September 06, 2012, 10:35:30 am
I'm not sure if I understood it correctly, but are you really suggesting that writing something on a Kickstarter page, collecting money and then deciding what actually be delivered is OK? And this is what actually will happen in this project?

From what I gather, it wasn't actually ON Kickstarter. Some other crowdfunding site. They might have different kind of rules about what kind of behaviour is desired. And he got the money, so I'd say it has been shown to be OK, de facto, regardless of what he supposedly ought to have done. >:]

There are many people who like ADOM quite a lot, it seems, and some of them are willing to pony up money for "game made by Thomas Biskup", regardless of content.


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Curses / Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« on: September 06, 2012, 11:20:54 am »
Quote from: Jboy2000000 on September 05, 2012, 01:42:14 pm
Its possible with 1 Stealth and any clothes, the problem isn't getting in, the problem is getting out alive.

Not the point. There are these guys, and they're guarding a door, and your liberal walks up to that door and KICKS IT SO HARD IT BREAKS. And the guys do nothing. They'll eventually notice the building "door has been kicked down" suspicion, but they don't give a shit about seeing the door kicked down before their very eyes. And if they really are there just to observe any would-be burglars, why can't I pick the lock? :P

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Curses / Re: Ideas to make the game funnier and more realistic.
« on: September 05, 2012, 01:07:12 pm »
I see.

Why?

Is there some particular reason you feel that seduction should depend on not one but TWO skills? :?

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Curses / Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« on: September 05, 2012, 01:01:30 pm »
It is possible (with 18 stealth and a black catsuit) to smash the guarded door at the power plant without alerting the guards. This seems a bit counter-intuitive, considering you can't just pick the lock.

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Curses / Re: Ideas to make the game funnier and more realistic.
« on: September 05, 2012, 12:19:28 pm »
Quote from: Jboy2000000 on September 04, 2012, 05:12:50 pm
One idea is that when Seducing someone you have to pass a "Proformence" skill check to make them a love slave.

That's what happens now. The skill is "Seduction", called that because it is used for seduction. >:]

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Other Games / Re: The Artist Formerly Known as JADE: ADOM II Alpha
« on: September 05, 2012, 12:14:24 pm »
Microtransactions! Just what the Roguelike scene was missing! >:]

Seriously though there have been some good shareware games that required you to pay for some features. Like that one with the isometric view where you've been exiled underground by the evil empire and there's all these people living in vast caverns. The features missing from the free version of JADE aren't some kind of optional donation perks, they've been deliberately removed from the game to annoy you into buying it. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with trying to sell a video game.

Not that I'm going to buy it. ADOM had many cool things, and it's sometimes fun to play for a while, but I kind of think the design was inherently flawed. The game relied on too many secrets. There are so many places where reading spoilers will mean the difference between life and death, and dying means you need to start all over again. :/

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General Discussion / Re: MSPA Hiatustuck: [S] ACT 6 INTERMISSION 3
« on: September 04, 2012, 01:09:36 pm »
Quote from: SirAaronIII on September 03, 2012, 08:16:26 pm
Does anyone else get the feeling that Andrew Hussie secretly hates all the fans? There are the ridiculous god tier outfits to throw off the cosplayers, the loads and loads of new characters which might be his attempt to get people to stop caring, and the outright flipping everybody off at the end of that secret Nic Cage flash.

Nah. He just likes trolling people. He's been doing that since before MSPA. Doesn't mean he hates anyone.

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