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I'm seeing several who are 'interested' near all the assorted furniture.  But 'blissful' after sleeping in a great bedroom.  And the mason who made my first artifact found it 'very satisfying'.

How would procedural hybrid generation handle mules, for example?  Which are already in the game, although as far as I know they are magically generated from nowhere, as there's currently no mechanism for hybridization.  When Toady implements such a mechanism mules ought to keep the same characteristics they have now, and continue to be called mules instead of some generated name based on horses or donkeys.  I have nothing against the idea of procedurally generated hybrids, but I think that some system based directly on creature definitions in the raws is needed, both to cover real hybrids with established names and traits, and for greater modding flexibility.

The hybrid system ought to account for both inclination and ability.  One approach might use an ATTRACTION_CHANCE tag in the definitions for each potential parent and a HYBRID tag in the mother's definition.

ATTRACTION_CHANCE:CREATURE:CASTE:probability:probability with preference
-CREATURE, as one would expect, specifies the type of creature that is a possible subject of attraction
-CASTE would usually be ALL, but could specify a particular caste in some cases
-probability would be a percentage, determining the basic chance that an individual would find the subject creature potentially attractive
-probability with preference is a modified chance for individuals who have a preference for the subject creature.  Someone who "likes goblins for their terrifying features" is more likely to find their glowing red eyes interesting and exotic, rather than horrifying.
-ATTRACTION_CHANCE would respect orientation.  Potential romance would require both mutual attraction to the subject creature and compatible orientations.

HYBRID:FATHER:OUTCOME:ratio
-FATHER would be a creature ID, with or without caste specified
-OUTCOME could be a creature ID or NONE, to allow reduced fertility in hybridization.  If Toady also implemented a procedural hybrid system, OUTCOME could accept GENERATED.
-ratio would be a number determining which outcome occurs at any potential pregnancy, functioning like the POP_RATIO token for castes.

For a more complex ≡system≡, see JT's Token Wishlist.  Having to write up a creature entry for every hybrid would certainly mean more work for modders, especially in mods with a lot of intelligent creatures added, but it might be easier for Toady, and I would certainly prefer to have the option of defining specific hybrids that I want to be possible, with specific names and characteristics.

Fewer logs hanging in the air, though they can still get stuck in trees which is a little odd but maybe not a deal-breaker.

From what I've seen, big chunks of branch getting stuck in nearby trees is entirely realistic.

Changing it to BODY:TRUNK_TREE seems to have fixed that issue.  Thanks, I knew it must be something obvious.

...They recently had a press conference and all of them looked like autistic children on the verge of a nervous breakdown...

...The preferred solution would be california sliding into the ocean, which in retrospect would probably be more likely than anything pro-freedom happening in california...

...Also, mainiac - you're being... kind of a dick right now?

Unlike Steeled, who is being so kind, thoughtful, and polite.  I particularly liked the part about wishing death upon everyone who lives in California, including me and also a lot of Republicans, apparently on the grounds that equal rights are anti-freedom.

Do you get the syndrome, but it does nothing, or do you not get it at all?

Get rid of the first BODY:stuff tag you have, the one that's right after the prefstring and before you start defining the castes.  The errors are because most of your castes have BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:stuff instead of BODY:stuff.  Those are very different tags, and you want BODY, like you used for the 7-headed castes.

Instead of BLOOD:CREATURE_MAT:ANIMAL:HYDRABLOOD:LIQUID, I think you want BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:HYDRABLOOD:LIQUID.

That's all I saw with a quick look.  Try those changes and see if it works better.

Yeah, you can add your own regional effects, for Evil zones and otherwise, and set the randomly generated ones to 0 in advanced world gen.


A transformation syndrome that changes one of your workers into a very rare caste is the most effective way I know to get a single queen.  Might want to give that caste the PET token, so she doesn't have to be married to provide your fort with all its kids.