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Still not as weird as that artic shark which contains poisonous substance and must be left to decompose for a few month before it can be eaten.

Otherwise that fin situation sounds a little like the ivory situation with elephants

As long as the A.I. will lack actual "I" it will not be a problem.

Spoiler: it will just continue to amaze us with high quality art (click to show/hide)

Speaking of high quality art, here some progress that have been made with Midjourney AI in the past year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twKgWGmsBLY

Former Russian officer and ardent nationalist Igor Girkin’s newly formed “Club of Angry Patriots” published its manifesto focused on protecting pro-war factions in the Kremlin from possible “sabotage” and “betrayal.” The “Club of Angry Patriots” published its manifesto on April 17 on its newly created Telegram channel, which emphasizes protecting pro-war factions in the Kremlin instead of efforts to win the war in Ukraine.[25] The manifesto claims that unspecified actors who remain in power in Russia have transferred their money and allegiance to the West and may be preparing for a coup and the ”dismemberment” of the Russia Federation. The manifesto likens the Kremlin‘s pro-war and anti-war factions to the fight between the Reds and Whites in the Russian Civil War following the Bolshevik revolution of 1917. The manifesto also claims that Russia is currently fighting the war in a mediocre way and is unable to defeat Ukraine in its current state. ISW previously assessed that Girkin and the “Club of Angry Patriots” may be attempting to advance the political goals of unnamed figures in Russian power structures who want to influence Putin’s decision making through public discourse.[26]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-april-17-2023

Interesting.  Also in the never ending Russian publical political telenovela Prigozhin is seemingly regaining favor. I really want to know if its real or just way to deflect public attention from failures and those responsible. I haven't heard from someone serious about that arena in a while.

The economic question is interesting. Most studies suggest the long term impacts of climate change (even an idealist 2 degree shift) are worse than any short term impacts of extreme infrastructure and economic overhaul. That is, of course, still a hard pill to swallow and even harder to sell.

The devil is always in the details e.g. worse for who? There are arguments that climate change fanatics are at best arguing in bad faith trying to promote alarmism/action and at worst are simply virtue singling promoting fear-mongering and immediate action that have limited impact and primarily benefit the wealthy and thus diverting attention and resources from more substantive solutions that would help solve climate change problems and elevate poverty for hundreds of millions.

I went with wicked problem because it was relevant to the topic and easy to prove. I wouldn't know where to start unpacking climate change arguments, but if anyone want to dive in here is a very nice (though four hours long!) conversation on the topic that covers a verity of views grounded in science that are different from the usual clickbait you'd see on the topic: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gk9gIpGvSE

Only, I might argue that in this specific case, no good comes from such stubbornness; whereas I can imagine people perhaps developing some good qualities - such as patience and compassion, if a religious faith was held instead.

I think that the strength of religion is in the combination of tradition, cultural heritage and institutions (e.g. there is a reason why there are less suicides in religious active communities) but otherwise there are far better and more influential sources of wisdom. I might argue that even Disney cartoons had more effect in modern times..

I very much prefer, let's say, an irrational and arrogant Vegan who preaches at me about corpse eating, how unnatural and unhealthy consuming meat is, and how animal husbandry is the main source of all economic and environmental problems, to a religious fanatic who wants to kill me because his God orders him to do so.

Worth noting that through out history many held beliefs with a level of fervor or conviction similar to that of religious belief and their actions directly or indirectly led to much death and or suffering. One doesn't need god to find rationalization to do harm for the sake of their idea of greater good.

Looks like its going to be a fun day monday for a change, with SpaceX first test launch of its super heavy rocket, the most powerful rocket ever built

https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-first-orbital-launch-explainer

pretty blatant racism (no sponges allowed!)

sponges?

Quote from: jipehog on April 15, 2023, 02:37:43 pm

And if the the question was how can we reduce greenhouse gas emissions you'd have clear cut solution.

I mean, short-term effective start (or ramp up, where it's already started) steadily shifting the massive subsidies we're feeding into fossil fuels into... not fossil fuels. Even beyond various sorts of regulation or direct investment opportunities in renewables or emission capture/reduction, you do that and suddenly the market becomes even more interested than it already was in building infrastructure et al that puts less emissions in the air.

And that's just one pretty bloody straightforward solution to greenhouse gas emissions, maybe not a silver bullet or "best" solution, but an effective one that isn't some kind of convoluted 20 year plan or whatever.

It's not exhaustive, folks more plugged in to the renewable et al field have been beating their various drums on stuff like that probably longer than either of us have been alive. There's a pile of pretty bloody clear cut ways to help on that front if certain folks with more money than sense would stop getting in the friggin' way.

Bloody clear cut is not the scientific method. Unlike the previous proposition, the debate on climate change is inherently political involving economic, social, and political ramifications. For example in the UK, many would find your bloody straightforward solution vastly insufficient arguing that UK should do much more than steady shift, although interestingly even if tomorrow UK drop from the face of earth it this will not significantly effect climate change.

Addressing climate change requires international cooperation (particularly that of China) meaning that you have to worry about international actors which have conflicting perspectives, sense of urgency, capabilities, and focus on their own interests.

I already touched on this in another thread, but that was about narratives and Russia:
Here just few other quick points of the many issues involved here:

* The argument is that shift to a low-carbon economy can provide new economic opportunities, it would also impact existing industries and those who depend on them (cost of living too?) and historically these things tend to effect disproportionately particularly low-income communities with job retraining may not be accessible everywhere
* The high cost of infrastructure can be a barrier to developing and even developed countries, an opportunity cost loss that would have negative effects on their economic growth.
* Tough its called green tech it would require significant resources, the extraction and manufacturing of which would inevitably cause much environmental degradation and human rights abuses in the usual suspects with weak environmental and labor protections.
* Power politics, I am sure that if the west give it Taiwan China would be amicable to a big compromise.. ( Not sure that anything short of a blowjob from Biden could do the same for Putin )

Anyway. Your expletives hide that your greater good equitable solution is faith based. You nor anyone else can formulate a clear solution for climate change that would address all the above. This is why international effort have been lackluster with everyone agreeing on a small step in the right direction that everyone can live with.

Can AI lower cholesterol and blood pressure?

Asking for a friend... 

I typed your symptom into the AI doctor, after careful analysis it told me you could have network connectivity problem