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Is there any way to resist banishment and does standard magic resistance help?

I really need to learn that if I go to the elven halls I'm likely to end up in the Abyss.

So I decided to go with a random race/background, and got minotaur paladin - very playable considering what else I could have ended up with.

I'm wondering if I should convert to another god, as The Shining One seems to be very powerful in the late game with all the Hells and crypt being full of demons or undead, but difficult to use effectively early on because it is hard to gain piety.

Since he does not punish you unless you convert to an evil religion, I have the option of converting to Okawaru or Trog - Trog seems like a good option because as a minotaur I'm unlikely to have much use for magic.

Alternatively, I could go with Elyvilon and have the option of switching back to TSO without the wrath of any gods later, or of course I could just stay with him.

What do you think? (Actually, I suspect it won't matter as when I went to the Temple I was running from a pack of big kobolds who were shooting me with curare needles, so they'll probably kill me anyway when I leave, but the advice would be useful if I play a paladin again.)

Quote from: Leafsnail on October 05, 2010, 11:15:31 am

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replace selective amnesia with scroll of amnesia

Oh for Christ sake...

Why don't they just get rid of every useful spell now and save themselves time later?

GRRRAAAAAH! FUCK!

It'll make worshipping Sif better though.

As if there weren't already enough good reasons to worship him...

If you want to see overpowered, go fight a yak. You will learn the true meaning of overpowered.

You don't need to fight yaks; they move at normal speed and have no ranged attack. If you can survive deep enough to meet them then you should know whether your character is powerful enough to take them on, and if not, just stay away.

Yaktaurs, on the other hand, are a different matter.

When you roll the dice 1000 times, even if you only have a 1 in 1000 chance of losing, you'll eventually lose.

In Dungeon Crawl, if you have a 1 in 1000 chance of losing, you'll lose 9 times out of 10.

Just had the most ridiculously food-scarce game; I did not find one permanent food item even though I got down to level 11, almost nothing that could leave a corpse did, those that did leave corpses were contaminated and made me sick rather than fed me. I spent almost the entire game at starving or near-starving, occasionally getting up to very hungry. Finally died to a troll because when you are starving you cannot cast spells.

In this specific case, a Minotaur Chaos Knight, currently level 8 with a +1 chain mail as my best armour and armour skill of 5.

But I was also asking in a more general way, as this mutation seems to come up a lot when drinking un-Id'd potions and they turn out to be Mutation.

The main annoying thing is not that there are sometimes out-of-depth monsters but that there are almost always out of depth monsters.

A typical chain of events that just happened to my latest character (minotaur gladiator.)

I clear level 1 easily, nothing particularly threatening, no particularly interesting items.

I go down to level 2, explore a few rooms, down a few corridors, and there's Sigmund. By luck, I am close to a corner so he can only zap me once before I flee, and though I can't go back the way I came because  it involves going down long straight corridors where he would have plenty of chances to kill me, I can keep him mostly out of LOS by fleeing into the unknown.

By even greater luck, I find some stairs down before he can kill me, and oh look, there's Dowan and Duvessa. So it's back up the stairs to face Sigmund,  stay here and get killed by them or flee into the unknown again, which I do.

I get zapped a few more times, bringing me dangerously close to death, but before I die I make it to another staircase down... and find myself in the middle of a group of orcs including a couple of wizards and priests. Game over. Again.

If this happened occasionally or even around half the time, I wouldn't mind so much, but when it goes on and on, game after game it just gets silly.

And even if I somehow manage to survive, if I've spent the first few levels mostly fleeing, that means I will have killed very little, so will not have been able to level up or train my skills, making me even less prepared for any deeper depths.

Reckon I'm going to give this game a break for a while and try something less frustrating.

Far too often the early game is just a choice between one no-win situation and another. At least in DF losing is fun.