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DF Modding / Re: So.. how can we change civ politics.
« on: July 21, 2008, 05:22:00 pm »
I have also tried making interesting history by encouraging conflict, though I have not taken quite so organised an approach as you seem to have.

I think I read somewhere that the EVIL and BENIGN tokens decide who the civilisations side with in a fight, until things get more complicated.  I am not sure if they have an effect in the history at the moment.

As you have probably noticed as well; the elves seem to go to war with everyone because of their treatment of trees, amongst other things.  After that I think the major causes of war are eating sapients and making trophies.

So far I have found it difficult to get the goblins to attack there neighbours; most attacks seem to be from people who dislike other peoples lack of ethics.  The goblins do seem to dislike the elves 'river' worship though.

The best way I have found to make the goblins continually attack everyone around them is to replace their 'Intelligent' token with 'Can_civ' and 'Can_learn'.  Without the ability to communicate they get into fights whenever they encounter another species.  This can be replaced with 'Intelligent' again after the world has been generated if you want to talk to them.  I do not know if you would consider this a better way; I prefer to think of it as a refusal to communicate.

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DF Modding / Re: Smelter Item Reactions
« on: July 06, 2008, 06:52:14 am »
Quote from: Untelligent on July 05, 2008, 10:47:01 pm
Also, I don't quite remember smelters needing to be built out of fire-safe materials. If I happen to be wrong, you could make a reaction to turn wood into stone or something... Maybe a custom stone called "hard wood" if you wanted it to be a bit more "realistic."

Not that elves smelting wooden bows is realistic, but...
They do unfortunately have to be made out of fire proof materials. 

Thank you for the information about professions, I was trying to change them using the profession token list on the Wiki to no avail.

I would have used another workshop for the reaction if I could but sadly smelters are all I can use, maybe this will be changed eventually too.

Giving Elves the [MINOR_METAL] rule allows them to make smelters, but gives them access to a lot of other things as well.  It is preferable to giving them the stone preference rule though.

Elves are playable like this but I am still thinking about how to make playing them interesting.  Without the [MINOR_METAL] tag they can't dig or cut down trees, and without stone they can't build cages (no mechanisms) which is the only way to tame animals.  As no animals attack them they can go about doing whatever they want until the goblins show up.  Unless some sort of building material is obtained then they can't build anything either.  Hunting down the animals for resources (assuming you can) seems out of character.  This leaves farming.  Still it gives a nice change of pace before your elves request beds and chairs that can only be built out of the wood they can't obtain.  Even if you could you still need to put them inside.

Wood logs could of course be generated from the smelter if you have a preference that allows you to build it.  But centering your entire resource producton around the 'magic pot' seems unfair.

Any ideas are welcome.

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DF Modding / Re: Smelter Item Reactions
« on: July 05, 2008, 09:17:05 am »
After several experiments, I can answer my own question.  I will list the results here in case they are useful to anyone else.  Creating wooden weapons isn't everyones cup of earl gray, but what I have found out has a few applications if you are, like me new to this.

[REACTION:WOODEN SWORD]
[NAME:make wooden sword]
[SMELTER]
[PRODUCT:100:1:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT:WOOD:PINE]

This creates a wooden short sword made out of pine.  PINE can be replaced with any type of wood or left blank for generic wood.  This doesn't require a reagent but one could be added.

The Wiki explains a lot of this but it took me a few attempts to get the entry correct. 

The first number after PRODUCT is apparently the percentage chance of success.  The next number is the amount of product created, in this case one item.

I believe the next entry to be the where the program looks for the information.  These are split up into different folders; you seem to need the name after the "_" so "WEAPON" from "ITEM_WEAPON".

After that is the name of the object, which can be found in the relevant folder listed after the folder name;"ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT" from "ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT".

The next part is the material and then the type of that material.

I had intended to use this in an elf civilisation; renaming the furnace operator to something more mystical, unfortunately I don't think I can rename the smelter itself.  You could use this to create bows but the game still won't recognise them as trainable weapons.  There is also the added problem of building the smelter out of fire proof material that you don't have.

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DF Modding / Smelter Item Reactions
« on: July 05, 2008, 07:13:19 am »
As I understand it only smelters can have there reactions changed; is it possible for this reaction to create an item rather than a piece of material?

I have been trying to create wooden weapons, if that is possible then what would the code be?  Would it require a specific type of wood or could it be allowed to use any?

[REACTION:WOODEN SWORD]
[NAME:make wooden sword]
[SMELTER]
[REAGENT:1:STONE:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:COAL_BITUMINOUS]
[PRODUCT:100:1:******]

This is the reaction I have been using as a test as all the materials to perform it can be taken when starting.  Where "******" is the various arrangements of words I have attempted.

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