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So basically the bug is filled bags being usable in construction?

If so, it should be easy enough to check if it always occurs. Embark with a single bag full of seeds; try to build a container from it. See if you can still plant.

If it does replicate from such as simple test case, it's quite an issue.

I'm not sure I think "personal freedom" and "civil suppression" are concepts that make sense (or would even be recognized) in a medievalish fantasy world. Minor historical exceptions aside, these are very much modern concepts and starkly at odds with anything associated with monarchy and feudalism.

This is just my opinion but wouldn't it have mad emore sense for it to default to the 'old' down the bottom and give people the option of having it up the top?

Not really, what with the game being in alpha and all. Obviously Toady thought displaying them on the top was the better design choice, and if so that should really be the default. If all new features were opt-in, few would ever use them.

Their morals feel inconsistent to me at the moment (they happily eat goblins, but get pissed if I make bone bolts out of one?) but I'm all for elves being more rabid and crazy, in an alien kind of way. I'd love it if the whole beastfolk alliance thing showed up in gameplay as well.

They really should be buffed, though, the way they get slaughtered in world get battles now is kinda silly. Sure, they may only have wooden weapons, but with their enormous lifespans they should all be legendary fighters, with masterful equipment. Then you'd see the true fury of nature...

Maybe Toady should some day try to change it to just "stairs" that decide on their own whether they should be up, down, or both based on other "stairs" above or below? *shrugs* Sounds cool enough in my head.

That's pretty much exactly what I imagined, only sensibly formulated.

An "up/down" stair would turn into an "up" stair if you deconstructed the stair below it - since you can no longer go down, it's not an "up/down" stair, is it?

A "down" stair would turn into a "up/down" stair if you built a "stair" above it. Takes a bit more suspension of disbelief to accept, since it kind of requires the dwarf constructing a staircase from above. But it works if you imagine that the original "down" stair was always an "up/down" stair, only not with anything above it. Or you could go with the scaffold handwaving I think Nazush Ebsas hinted at.

Anyway, this would make stairs so much easier to handle. Right now they're not user-friendly at all.

What you are saying is the bug, is that the block produced from deconstructing the floor realized there was a bridge there and never checked the bridge's state.

That's what I'm reading it as, as well. The block should have fallen down (or perhaps more sensibly have been placed next to the hole by the dwarf doing the deconstruction - not sure if that's how it behaves in normal cases) but ended up suspended in mid-air by the retracted bridge.

I think you can view trade agreements from the [c]iv screen.  I also think the suggestion is a good one, though with the civilizations mixing the way they do now you might find the demand for narrow/large crap back home is higher than you'd expect.

You were right about the trade agreements being visible on the civ screen, thanks for the info.

When the Caravan Arc rolls around - or at least the tasks that are currently grouped under that headline - I imagine trading will become a whole lot more complex in all kinds of ways, presumably the incoming traders will have more specific needs and wants in mind. If nothing else this would be needed to make it consistent with any caravans the player sends out. Not that I know if anything like that is really planned, but I sure hope so. It'd be awesome.

Pack a lot of masterwork rock items in a cart, designate a bunch of dwarves as merchants and guards and send 'em off to the elves to trade for wood or cloth, then wait a bunch of months, hoping for the best, until they either return (hopefully with a sensible profit) or news arrive that their were ambushed or whatever. It'd be a big gamble - sending lots of dwarves out into the big bad world without you to protect them - but potentially very profitable. Kinda like financing a merchant ship bound for India back in the 15th century.

Actually, it's unclear, chokes on underground stuff, has a very limited set of viewing angles, and shows less than 3dwarf.

It will be absolutely gloriously useful when finished though, since it'll be in the game itself instead of a seperate program. Personally I'd prefer the game to completely playable in fully 3D.

I also want a flying bicycle and peace in the middle east.